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Old 03-31-2014, 06:08 PM
 
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Anyone born here is not a foreigner. Most Americans have had families born here for decades.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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If you think that all illegal immigrants commit crimes, you are greatly mistaken. Many do not commit crimes. that does not mean that they shouldn't be here... because they sure as hell shouldn't. But how about you guys stop making stuff up.
Uh; try not reporting income, using fake SSN's and so on. Those are felonies.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:06 PM
 
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You make no sense. What "foreigners" are you yammering about?
You. I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. If you were born here, then perhaps you're just uneducated and ignorant about US Laws?
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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Uh; try not reporting income, using fake SSN's and so on. Those are felonies.
Those are all felonies. What's your point?

Not all illegal immigrants commit those felonies. Many do, not all.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:16 PM
 
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But not all illegal aliens commit crimes. That is where you guys are wrong. Many do, but not all. Going to a hospital is not a crime.

Stop them from entering. Kick them out. But don't sit back and be cowards by spreading lies.

Illegals broke the law when they choose to cross in US Territory. They Illegally apply for jobs.

You correct that going to the hospital is not a crime, but, the big butt the tax payers pay for it. Why do think medical cost is so high in the first place.

The right way to do this is, Visa, work permit and a back ground check. Your business in this country. Purchase health insurance so others people have to carry your burden.

Their mere presence in this country is breaking the law. There is a real problem with the Mexican cartel and Gangs. Its almost like the battle that Santa Anna could not win revisited.

Cowards, I think not. Americans want direct action and thinking you have some legal status is just a plan joke.
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:17 PM
 
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1984 think speak. its not immigration reform its a 3rd amnesty.
i think that people should fast and demonstrate for their rights, in their own country.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:39 PM
 
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Illegals broke the law when they choose to cross in US Territory. They Illegally apply for jobs.

You correct that going to the hospital is not a crime, but, the big butt the tax payers pay for it. Why do think medical cost is so high in the first place.

The right way to do this is, Visa, work permit and a back ground check. Your business in this country. Purchase health insurance so others people have to carry your burden.

Their mere presence in this country is breaking the law. There is a real problem with the Mexican cartel and Gangs. Its almost like the battle that Santa Anna could not win revisited.

Cowards, I think not. Americans want direct action and thinking you have some legal status is just a plan joke.
You're stating the obvious here. No one is arguing against any of these points.

The coward is the person who makes false blank statements to push an agenda that they cannot support with empirical evidence. In this case, the cowards are those who keep saying that all illegal immigrants commit crimes without providing any proof. That is completely unsubstantiated. Many commit crimes, many don't.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:55 PM
 
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You're stating the obvious here. No one is arguing against any of these points.

The coward is the person who makes false blank statements to push an agenda that they cannot support with empirical evidence. In this case, the cowards are those who keep saying that all illegal immigrants commit crimes without providing any proof. That is completely unsubstantiated. Many commit crimes, many don't.
ALL illegal aliens are lawbreakers and ALL of them who are above 18 DO commit at least misdemeanors which CAN mean jail time. Sheesh!
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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ALL illegal aliens are lawbreakers and ALL of them who are above 18 DO commit at least misdemeanors which CAN mean jail time. Sheesh!
So you admit that you were wrong earlier by changing your stance. Your new stance is not necessarily fact either. While it is likely that most 18+ illegal immigrants commit at least misdemeanors, it is not an empirically proven fact that ALL of them do. There are undocumented immigrants attending college that are over 18, do not work, and are otherwise not committing crimes.

I can't believe that you are so committed to being wrong.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:13 PM
 
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I'm not ignorant of US laws. Nor am I a "foreigner".

Again, I have no clue as to what you're yammering about.

Just because people don't agree with you, it doesn't make anyone a "foreigner". You must have something against American citizens.
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