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Old 11-14-2014, 04:14 PM
 
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Congressional Republicans have split into competing factions over how to respond to President Obama’s expected moves to overhaul the nation’s immigration system, which are likely to include protecting millions from being deported.

GOP split over immigration as Obama prepares executive action

The GOP should utilize every legal avenue to prevent this from happening.

 
Old 11-14-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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I see that the RINOs appear to be siding with Obama---no surprise there. Just consider the words of one RINO:

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.), an advocate for an overhaul of immigration law, has been counseling House Republicans this week about the need to show empathy for undocumented workers as the party rails against the Obama administration, according to GOP aides familiar with his deliberations. He is concerned that too much vitriol could send the wrong message to Hispanic voters.

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Now the dems are whining about that, including Al Green who tries to compare what Obama intends to do to Lincoln issuing the Emancipation Proclamation and Truman desegregating the military:

“Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, and there was much to be said about it at the time. But he led with executive action,” said Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.), adding later: “When Truman signed the order desegregating the military, there was much being said. But it desegregated the military.”

Really? To compare freeing slaves who were forcibly brought here to giving illegals amnesty is despicable. Just as bad as comparing desegregating the military to giving amnesty.

No one forced illegals to come here. They came here in violation of our laws. We, as a nation, owe illegals nothing.

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Then there is the fool, Sheila Jackson Lee, who like a true sycophant plans to back Obama. Never Mind that by doing so she, as a black person, is throwing blacks under the bus.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Tex.) suggested that she and her colleagues would serve as a protective “ring” around the president once he takes action. “We’ll stay on fire, Mr. President,” Lee said, referring to a comment by Boehner that Obama was “playing with fire.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 09:13 PM
 
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I see that the RINOs appear to be siding with Obama---no surprise there. Just consider the words of one RINO:

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.), an advocate for an overhaul of immigration law, has been counseling House Republicans this week about the need to show empathy for undocumented workers as the party rails against the Obama administration, according to GOP aides familiar with his deliberations. He is concerned that too much vitriol could send the wrong message to Hispanic voters.

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Now the dems are whining about that, including Al Green who tries to compare what Obama intends to do to Lincoln issuing the Emancipation Proclamation and Truman desegregating the military:

“Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, and there was much to be said about it at the time. But he led with executive action,” said Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.), adding later: “When Truman signed the order desegregating the military, there was much being said. But it desegregated the military.”

Really? To compare freeing slaves who were forcibly brought here to giving illegals amnesty is despicable. Just as bad as comparing desegregating the military to giving amnesty.

No one forced illegals to come here. They came here in violation of our laws. We, as a nation, owe illegals nothing.

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Then there is the fool, Sheila Jackson Lee, who like a true sycophant plans to back Obama. Never Mind that by doing so she, as a black person, is throwing blacks under the bus.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Tex.) suggested that she and her colleagues would serve as a protective “ring” around the president once he takes action. “We’ll stay on fire, Mr. President,” Lee said, referring to a comment by Boehner that Obama was “playing with fire.
Really, Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart? And the right message to the Hispanic voter is "you're ethnic group is special so they will get a pass on the enforcement of our immigration laws"?

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Old 11-14-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Diaz-Balart seems to have wisely studies the demographic breakdown of recent elections, and population growth patterns.

Now, if you prefer, the GOP can simply concede POTUS races for as far as the eye can see. In 2016, Latinos will comprise a bigger portion of the electorate than 2012, and in 2012, they gave Obama a 5 million vote margin!
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:33 PM
 
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Diaz-Balart seems to have wisely studies the demographic breakdown of recent elections, and population growth patterns.

Now, if you prefer, the GOP can simply concede POTUS races for as far as the eye can see. In 2016, Latinos will comprise a bigger portion of the electorate than 2012, and in 2012, they gave Obama a 5 million vote margin!
The Hispanic voting bloc amounts to 10% of all voters. Not all of them support amnesty.

Even if every Hispanic illegal got amnestied tomorrow, they still won't be able to vote. Plus, among the citizens, like any group, many don't register to vote or even care about voting. Then there are the convicted felons.

Once again, I find it insulting to have politicians---on either side of the aisle---think that in order to get my vote they have to promise to reward lawbreakers. I will vote for any politician who is against amnesty.

Not all Hispanics vote for democrats. So please stop with the stereotyping already.
 
Old 11-15-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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The Hispanic voting bloc amounts to 10% of all voters. Not all of them support amnesty.

Even if every Hispanic illegal got amnestied tomorrow, they still won't be able to vote. Plus, among the citizens, like any group, many don't register to vote or even care about voting. Then there are the convicted felons.

Once again, I find it insulting to have politicians---on either side of the aisle---think that in order to get my vote they have to promise to reward lawbreakers. I will vote for any politician who is against amnesty.

Not all Hispanics vote for democrats. So please stop with the stereotyping already.
Well, the fact is that the majority of Hispanic-Americans whose roots are from south of our border (mostly Mexico) do want amnesty. I can't imagine as a white-American demanding that those of my ethnic group/race here illegally should get a pass on our immigration laws and blackmailing our politicians for votes to do so. It would be selfish and anti-American on my part, IMO. But then I put my country and the needs of my fellow citizens first not just those who are like me. Isn't that the way it should be?
 
Old 11-15-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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The Hispanic voting block accounted for the vast majority of the total Obama 2012 margin, going 73-27 his way. A 46% voting margin with 11-12% of total POTUS voters (11-12% is POTUS Latino %, 10% if off-year factor) = 5-5.5% aggregate candidate margin.

The problem for the GOP is not how those who can't vote feel-it is how Latinos who can vote showed their feelings in past POTUS elections.

This isn't about stereotypes. Its about simple math. It's studying the past to see what lies ahead. Not ranting about "feelings".
 
Old 11-15-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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The Hispanic voting block accounted for the vast majority of the total Obama 2012 margin, going 73-27 his way. A 46% voting margin with 11-12% of total POTUS voters (11-12% is POTUS Latino %, 10% if off-year factor) = 5-5.5% aggregate candidate margin.

The problem for the GOP is not how those who can't vote feel-it is how Latinos who can vote showed their feelings in past POTUS elections.

This isn't about stereotypes. Its about simple math. It's studying the past to see what lies ahead. Not ranting about "feelings".
That's because minorities tend to vote Democrat and I believe it is because of the socialistic policies of that party. One cannot deny though that a part of the reason that many Hispanics vote Democrat is directly due to their stance on illegal immigration. Those who think that is ok might want to re-read my post #6.
 
Old 11-15-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Congressional Republicans have split into competing factions over how to respond to President Obama’s expected moves to overhaul the nation’s immigration system, which are likely to include protecting millions from being deported.

GOP split over immigration as Obama prepares executive action

The GOP should utilize every legal avenue to prevent this from happening.
Honestly, as a democrat, I hope obama doesn't do this. The country is so divided over this that a single person should not decide the outcome....president or not.
 
Old 11-15-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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The Hispanic voting block accounted for the vast majority of the total Obama 2012 margin, going 73-27 his way. A 46% voting margin with 11-12% of total POTUS voters (11-12% is POTUS Latino %, 10% if off-year factor) = 5-5.5% aggregate candidate margin.

The problem for the GOP is not how those who can't vote feel-it is how Latinos who can vote showed their feelings in past POTUS elections.

This isn't about stereotypes. Its about simple math. It's studying the past to see what lies ahead. Not ranting about "feelings".
Uh; Hispanics ain't real reliable to the Dems unlike Black people as a group. Too; MOST voters in the US are anglo white people. There WON'T be any amnesty except MAYBE for a few of the Dream act people. The rest; they'll still be looking over their shoulders waiting to be busted and deported.
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