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Old 10-19-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The 14th Amendment doesn't just state that if you are born here you are automatically a citizen. There are qualifiers. The parent's have to not be subject to any other country's jurisdiction or allegiance. Thus the qualifier "and" subject to the jurisdiction. That's why children born from Diplomats aren't citizens of our country. Their parents aren't subject to our jurisdiction. Another qualifier is "permanent domicile". Illegal aliens do not have permanent domicile in our country because by law you have to be a citizen or be here legally. They are neither.
Care to prove where it says there are qualifiers and subject to jurisdiction in the 14th Amendment.

 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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Where does it say that in the 14th Amendment? That amendment says nothing about one's status in the US legally or illegally, it just says if born in the US, then you are a US Citizen.
Not all US born kids get birthright: like those born to foreign diplomats.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Out West
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You wish seriously to discriminate against American Citizen Kids based upon who is their parents?

You buying sheets and hoods as well? Maybe burn a cross or two?
For the love of God, do liberals have no reading comprehension?

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/...naturalization

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Naturalization is the process by which U.S. citizenship is granted to a foreign citizen or national after he or she fulfills the requirements established by Congress in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA)...

...You May Qualify for Naturalization if:

You have been a permanent resident for at least 5 years and meet all other eligibility requirements, please visit our Path to Citizenship page for more information.
You have been a permanent resident for 3 years or more and meet all eligibility requirements to file as a spouse of a U.S. citizen, please visit our Naturalization for Spouses of U.S. Citizens page for more information.
You have qualifying service in the U.S. armed forces and meet all other eligibility requirements. Visit the Military section of our website.
Your child may qualify for naturalization if you are a U.S. citizen, the child was born outside the U.S., the child is currently residing outside the U.S., and all other eligibility requirements are met. Visit our Citizenship Through Parents page for more information.
http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/...hrough-parents

Read it yourself, I'm not quoting everything for you.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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The parents in the lawsuit entered the country illegally from Mexico and Central America, but the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment guarantees the right of citizenship to children born here.

Judge: Texas may deny birth certificates to immigrants' kids

Illegal aliens: just leave, Ok?
Finally a judge who understands the law!

Maybe we will get now a movement "illegal lives matter" or "anchor babies live matter" but we should have a movement for legal aliens and citizens life matter" and another movement for "no benefits for illegal aliens"
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Not all US born kids get birthright: like those born to foreign diplomats.
Yes, there is that exception, but the 14th Amendment does state that, it doesn't state that one born in this country needs to come from parents legally in the US. It makes no reference to one's legal or illegal status.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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For the love of God, do liberals have no reading comprehension?

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/...naturalization



http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/...hrough-parents

Read it yourself, I'm not quoting everything for you.
What part of the bolded do you fail to understand? \\
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Out West
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What part of the bolded do you fail to understand? \\
You need to read the rest, lvoc. It says that one or more of the parents HAS TO BE A US CITIZEN.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:40 PM
 
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You need to read the rest, lvoc. It says that one or more of the parents HAS TO BE A US CITIZEN.
Not in anything you quoted or the 14th. The two cites are for naturalization. Which is not by birth and from parents if not born in the USA. Nothing that deals with a kid born in the USA.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Ten pages of comments arguing about this? Like it or not, people born in the US are US citizens. If you don't like it, work on getting a constitutional amendment passed. As for Texas? It's just being Texas.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Nonsense. Just complicating what should be simple.

The kids are Americans beyond any doubt. Texas is just deliberately complicating them getting the documentation to affirm their status. We should all be annoyed at TX for mistreating American Citizens.
No they are not. They are not kids of Immigrants. They are illegal aliens, and as such Children of illegal Criminals. Way past time to send these people back. Taxpayers have no obligation to these people.
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