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Old 12-26-2018, 07:12 PM
 
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The criminal element is the single element that’ll come, wall or not.

There will be plenty of them that will be deterred by a good physical barrier to. Fewer wil make it in and that's the point!

 
Old 12-26-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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Why not do everything, including a physical barrier? Democrats wanted a border barrier years ago and didn't do a damn thing because career politicians are all talk and no action. Trump is a man of action.
 
Old 12-26-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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There will be plenty of them that will be deterred by a good physical barrier to. Fewer wil make it in and that's the point!

I haven't seen a caravan formed to march to Tijuana lately.
 
Old 12-26-2018, 11:08 PM
 
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Build the Wall!!
 
Old 12-27-2018, 04:14 AM
 
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Just get out there or have your kids get out there and start applying for all those busboy, dishwasher, fry cook, janitor, caregiver, roofer, house painter, produce picker jobs and all the "illegals" will self deport once they can no longer find work.
No need for more bureaucracy to punish employers and no need for a boondoggle of a wall.
 
Old 12-27-2018, 04:15 AM
 
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Build the Wall!!
Get a job picking produce, put an illegal out of work!
 
Old 12-27-2018, 06:08 AM
 
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Intellectually slack comments. Try being part of the solution.

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Get a job picking produce, put an illegal out of work!
 
Old 12-27-2018, 06:14 AM
 
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Intellectually slack comments. Try being part of the solution.
Employers will need help absent an illegal work force, dont be lazy, get off the sidelines and be part of the solution.
 
Old 12-27-2018, 06:15 AM
 
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Seriously, the wall is going to cost a ****-ton and it's not gonna be that effective. There are already plenty of walls and monitoring throughout the border area and people still get through. And you can't make it triple barbed wire with land mines and machine gun towers - which would be effective, by the way, as was shown by the Soviet Union back in the day.

Instead, you should all be focusing on employment verification. If you don't want the Central Americans to come, then deny them employment. Make employment verification serious business and enforce that. Why are you not up in arms about the fact that e-verify is not mandatory nationwide? There are some bills for it now in the works.
As I posted in another thread...

That won't work because employers don't have a viable system they can check for accurately determining who is ineligible to work in the US. E-verify FAILS to identify a non-authorized worker 54% of the time.

From the USCIS, itself:
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"As seen in Exhibit 2, approximately 3.3 percent of all E-Verify findings are for unauthorized workers incorrectly found employment authorized and 2.9 percent of all findings are for unauthorized workers correctly not found employment authorized. Thus, almost half of all unauthorized workers are correctly not found to be employment authorized (2.9/6.2) and just over half are found to be employment authorized (3.3/6.2). Consequently, the inaccuracy rate for unauthorized workers is estimated to be approximately 54 percent with a plausible range of 37 percent to 64 percent. This finding is not surprising, given that since the inception of E-Verify it has been clear that many unauthorized workers obtain employment by committing identity fraud that cannot be detected by E-Verify"
The important takeaway...

"This finding is not surprising, given that since the inception of E-Verify it has been clear that many unauthorized workers obtain employment by committing identity fraud that cannot be detected by E-Verify"

USCIS Report

We just can't let them in to begin with. Close the border via a wall and/or other means, other than the ports of entry. Follow up on those here on a visa or on a vacation/visit. Track all foreigners entering the US via ports of entry (at the border, international airports, etc).
 
Old 12-27-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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lol, the ole crop picking argument again. Most illegals aren't picking crops only a small percentage are. For those jobs there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers. It's not a career job for Americans and is only seasonal work. What about all those once good paying construction and commercial landscaping jobs that illegal aliens have taken by working for less? What about all those entry level jobs that our young adults used to do that illegals have taken? I have to laugh at those who claim that Americans won't do those jobs when who do they think did them for a fair wage before millions of cheap illegals flooded our border?
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