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Old 04-14-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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I support putting illegal immigrants in LA , San Francisco, and New York City. There they will be embraced and given the best opportunities and benefits.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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I’m not trying to derail the conversation but to your point about multiple families living in a SFH....please explain to me why you would care about something like this? Especially at a time when rents are skyrocketing in major cities across the country. I’d rather have low income folks splitting rent than living on the streets. Wouldn’t you?
Illegal aliens are more than just "low income folks" they shouldn't even be in our country much less renting with several to an apartment or house. If they have many kids for example they aren't paying their fair share of taxes on the property to cover the education costs of their kids.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Illegal aliens are more than just "low income folks" they shouldn't even be in our country much less renting with several to an apartment or house. If they have many kids for example they aren't paying their fair share of taxes on the property to cover the education costs of their kids.
The property owner pays the property taxes, not the renter.
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Old 04-14-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Technically you are the government.
Once upon a time the government didn't care about civil rights, the environment, child labor, the disabled, etc. It took citizens protesting, making their voices heard, lobbying, etc.
Yes I agree. We have an anti-immigrant president that vowed to build a wall that employed half a village from Costa Rica illegally while being president for nearly three years. Immigration is nothing more than a political football and red meat for a gullible base. The bottom line is that big business wants them here for cheap labor. It doesn't matter who we vote for. Big business and huge donor checks win.
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Old 04-14-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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The property owner pays the property taxes, not the renter.
Of course, but those taxes go towards our funding our schools and educating several kids crambed into one dwelling not fit for that many creates a tax deficit in our school funding.
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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Why would they? They don’t require proof of legal residence when someone applies for housing. I’m not a defender of landlords but they aren’t culpable in this debate.
They don't have to care. The argument was in harming those who benefit from those here illegally.

There are a lot of people who benefit from them being here which is why nothing is ever actually done about it.
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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The property owner pays the property taxes, not the renter.
Tell me you're not serious. The rent includes a portion that goes to property taxes.
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I’m not trying to derail the conversation but to your point about multiple families living in a SFH....please explain to me why you would care about something like this? Especially at a time when rents are skyrocketing in major cities across the country. I’d rather have low income folks splitting rent than living on the streets. Wouldn’t you?
Around here they say it drives down property values, and it's ugly seeing cars parked on the front lawn because there's more cars than places to park them. I'm sure there are other reasons like sanitation, noise, and more.
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Around here they say it drives down property values, and it's ugly seeing cars parked on the front lawn because there's more cars than places to park them. I'm sure there are other reasons like sanitation, noise, and more.
The amount of people occupying a domicile has no tangible impact on the value the property assuming that the occupants are respectful and follow other rules. The other stuff you’re bringing up are separate issues that don’t necessarily have any correlation to occupancy.
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Tell me you're not serious. The rent includes a portion that goes to property taxes.
Who ultimately is responsible for paying the property tax bill? The owner of the property. Where he or she allocates that money from is irrelevant.
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