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View Poll Results: Do you think the Southwest "morally" belongs to the Mexicans?
Yes, its their land that we took. 12 11.54%
No, we won it fair and square. 87 83.65%
Not sure, dont really know the whole situation. 5 4.81%
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-11-2008, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Germany occupied France for four years in WW2. If this works out for the reconquistas, the Germans could try demanding the return of 'their' land in France.
Say andreabeth, when you think of it Germany still might have a legitimate claim on western Poland.
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Old 04-11-2008, 08:54 PM
 
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Say andreabeth, when you think of it Germany still might have a legitimate claim on western Poland.
Why not? My ancestors, the Vikings, were in North America around 1000 AD. Maybe if those of us of Scandinavian descent rise up and DEMAND the return of our lands I could get some nice waterfront property on Long Island or something.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Say andreabeth, when you think of it Germany still might have a legitimate claim on western Poland.
True enough.

Note though with both Germany and Poland have below replacement level birthrates; I strongly doubt that either country will fight over Silesia, etc.

The supply of 'cannon fodder' is thin these days in Europe.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:10 PM
 
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Mexicans don't really want to take their land back, or take over the area.

That is just alarmists views..trying to give substance to your guys' irrational fears.


Mexicans may believe the land was stolen from them, and yeah, maybe it was forced from them, but it happened a long time ago, and no mexicans realistically think the land is gonna be taken back....the only ones who believe that is anti-immigrant xenophobes.

Activists just bring the fact up, to show the irony of how so called "real" Americans insist this is their country and immigrants have no right to be here, when Mexicans were here first.

But dont worry..theres no militant plans to take it back...lol
It doesn't really matter to me whether they want to or not...what does concern me is the amount of money the state and federal governments provide these "people" with as it encourages them to have more children that john/jane q. taxpayer must foot the bill for...Most Americans want to have families that they can work to support...they don't want to be nurturing these criminals...we owe nothing to Mexico...this is the point that we concerned citizens are making...and yes...illegal immigrants do not have a right to be here...hence the 'illegal'...your activists can show up all they want...but their time is nearing an end...
keep in mind that the master race (referencing mecha) is not completely unified...the Santa Ana government has tried to pass ordinances banning such high density in housing that city (many of the housing units are occupied by illegals) only to be turned down in activist courts...the santa ana government is all hispanic (though some might be hispanic whites) which would probably mean that even though they have hispanic surnames...mecha would probably not approve of them...because they are 'outside the race'...
Border Patrol Agents Nacho Ramos and Jose Compean are two hispanic former Texas border patrol agents who shot a mexican drug dealer in the buttcheek because they thought he had a gun...a rogue pro-illegal da prosecuted them and they sit in jail doing time for serving their country...
there is much speculation that their detainment has had a chilling effect on the entire border patrol...why wouldn't it?...most agents want to provide for their families and don't wanna go to jail for properly doing their job...the point is these were two patriotic hispanics who got shafted by pro-mexican rogues in texas...I encourage any one concerned about the invasion to check these guys out on the web and learn about their case.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:33 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Yet again another idiot pool.

We mugged Mexico, put in a US controlled regime and then settled with it. Could really not have been more criminal. The Pres intended to absorb Mexico into the US and almost pulled it off. Might have been a good thing if he had done it. But he got outmanuevred at the end and could not pull it off.

But that was a long time ago...the area has morphed into something entirely different and is not going back to Mexico ever...No not ever.

So why not drop the nonsense?
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:43 PM
 
Location: California
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Just about the whole world, at one time or another, was "taken" by somebody, from somebody ELSE. Mostly under circumstances FAR more violent than the US "taking" the Southwest (for which they even paid a large sum of money, and the 'natives' were allowed to stay on). Pretty mild, I'd say, as far as 'taking' goes.

But of ALL these cases, I can't think of ONE that was done "morally"...at least the LOSERS didn't think it was very 'moral'...It's just that "Our" immorality was probably not as great as MOST...
Then you agree..
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yet again another idiot pool.

We mugged Mexico, put in a US controlled regime and then settled with it. Could really not have been more criminal. The Pres intended to absorb Mexico into the US and almost pulled it off. Might have been a good thing if he had done it. But he got outmanuevred at the end and could not pull it off.

But that was a long time ago...the area has morphed into something entirely different and is not going back to Mexico ever...No not ever.

So why not drop the nonsense?
The Spanish mugged the Aztecs, etc.

Then Texas kicked Mexico out in 1836-------Tx was its own country for about a decade.

The past is the past------it cannot be changed.

Besides: if one wishes to be technical about things------France owned Mexico after 1848.

Another part of Mexico that 'got away' was Guatemala------yet, Mx does not seem to want that land back.

Strictly speaking, Mx has only been independent since 1867.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:56 PM
 
Location: California
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The Spanish mugged the Aztecs, etc.

Then Texas kicked Mexico out in 1836-------Tx was its own country for about a decade.

The past is the past------it cannot be changed.

Besides: if one wishes to be technical about things------France owned Mexico after 1848.

Another part of Mexico that 'got away' was Guatemala------yet, Mx does not seem to want that land back.

Strictly speaking, Mx has only been independent since 1867.
I also believe Mexico had a president that was French.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:57 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Who cares? What would Mexico even do with the land they "want" back? Turn it into a horrid extension of an already terrible country.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:59 PM
 
Location: California
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Who cares? What would Mexico even do with the land they "want" back? Turn it into a horrid extension of an already terrible country.
Do what European settlers did in Africa. Deplete the lands resources until there is nothing left.
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