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Old 06-12-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) must commit to helping illegal immigrants achieve citizenship or else risk losing the vital Latino vote in the general election, Hispanic Democratic lawmakers are warning.
TheHill.com - Hispanic Dems warn Obama he risks losing Latinos
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Philly, Philly
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I hate to be rude but illegals do not have the right to vote....because they are not US citizens.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Bountiful, Utah
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When I read that statement, I see them saying - we don't have to follow the law, YOU (Obama) need to fix our problems and allow us to break the law and find a way for us to not have to abide by the law. It pisses me off! Who are they to tell anyone what to do!
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:49 AM
 
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I hate to be rude but illegals do not have the right to vote....because they are not US citizens.
They are allowed to vote in local elections in Cambridge Mass and I think also are allowed to vote in local elections in other "progressive" towns and cities around the country.

Just because illegals do not have the "right" to vote does not mean they are not voting. Voter Fraud exists-dead people vote all the time. If illegals get fake id what is to stop them from voting?

Also, while illegals may not have the "right" to vote-they certainly are out in the streets demanding "rights" and both Obama and McCain pander to them as if they do indeed have the right to vote.

Nicolem
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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I understand that Sears was sued recently..it seems a group of thieves made off with a truckload of televisions, and are now demanding that Sears honor the basic 180-day warranty, in case one of the sets malfunctions.

Guess we ALL want our rights, and its up to us to speak out on our own behalf...right?
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Bountiful, Utah
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OMGosh, that is hilarious! Our laws being turned around again to benefit those that don't deserve it!
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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And; if Obama wins the election (which he may), to be blunt--------he does not even need the 'Hispanic' vote.

Latinos (of any race) and Blacks are about the same percentages of the US population (13-15% each) and for most AA voters--------Obama would be a slam dunk. The 'Anglo' White voter may be the kingmakers here. Besides; many Hispanic Americans are quite anti illegal immigration as it is. McCain may also wind up 'splitting' the Latino voters.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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They are allowed to vote in local elections in Cambridge Mass and I think also are allowed to vote in local elections in other "progressive" towns and cities around the country.

Just because illegals do not have the "right" to vote does not mean they are not voting. Voter Fraud exists-dead people vote all the time. If illegals get fake id what is to stop them from voting?

Also, while illegals may not have the "right" to vote-they certainly are out in the streets demanding "rights" and both Obama and McCain pander to them as if they do indeed have the right to vote.

Nicolem
Are you sure about that? I know in a few place legal immigrants can vote on a local level but, outright illegals?
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:49 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Are you sure about that? I know in a few place legal immigrants can vote on a local level but, outright illegals?
Yes it happens, AB. They even have organized outreach groups who organize and "coach" them how to do it, in their native language. Sickening.
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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Are you sure about that? I know in a few place legal immigrants can vote on a local level but, outright illegals?
Yes. As DontH8Me said-they have groups and "non-profits" set up for the sole purpose of allowing illegals to vote. I live in NH so I hear about it on the Boston news all the time. I have an article or two- I will see if I can locate it when I am home tonight.

In the meantime-here is a quick search I did -NY times article. I know it is old but it says that in MD they even allow illegals to vote in local elections.


Push Is On to Give Legal Immigrants A Vote in the City - New York Times
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