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Old 08-21-2008, 05:43 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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So you are implying then, that those who hid people from the Nazis were wrong for doing so, as they broke the law?
Are you comparing the laws of a Sovereign nation to the edicts of a Nazi madman?

I am sorry. This is a fallacious comparison w/ absolutely no merit whatsoever.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:48 PM
 
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Are you comparing the laws of a Sovereign nation to the edicts of a Nazi madman?

I am sorry. This is a fallacious comparison w/ absolutely no merit whatsoever.
Not only madmen are capable of writing laws that are immoral. If you know anything about the history and policies of England - a 'Sovereign Nation', you will understand that.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:54 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Not only madmen are capable of writing laws that are immoral. If you know anything about the history and policies of England - a 'Sovereign Nation', you will understand that.
Let's legislate morality - problem solved!
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:02 PM
 
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What I am suggesting is that we legalise the immigration. That way, we will know who is in the US and can keep out Al Queda and their likes.

But isn't it unfair to keep out Al Queda and their likes? Perhaps they only want a chance at a better life, too?
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So gortamor, Yes or No, do you think America's immigration laws are immoral?
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:05 PM
 
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But isn't it unfair to keep out Al Queda and their likes? Perhaps they only want a chance at a better life, too?
No, because we know, from recent experience and from their own stated goals, they mean us harm.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:11 PM
 
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Let's legislate morality - problem solved!
There is a relationship being morality and law. In normal situations, we craft our laws with care and with attention to our beliefs about justice and fairness.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:14 PM
 
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So gortamor, Yes or No, do you think America's immigration laws are immoral?
What I personally believe has no bearing on this discussion.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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What I personally believe has no bearing on this discussion.
Are you acting as proxy for someone who is unable to post?
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:25 PM
 
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Are you acting as proxy for someone who is unable to post?
No, I am trying to explain, in a simplified way, the position of those who are the subject of this thread, although the theology from which their position derives is too complex to explain here.
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