A question for Immigrated Mexicans & American-born Mexicans... (middle east, immigrants, racist)
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First off, I'm not talking illegal immigration here, this is strictly legal immigration I'm curious about.
Do you have a rivalry (Immigrated Mexicans vs. Americans with Mexican heritage)? Why?
I'm a 2nd Generation Mexican-American(grandparents came from Mexico). I don't think there is a "rivalry" between Chicanos and Mexicans.
There are differences, but we consider ourselves blood. I would guess the vast majority of Chicanos still have family in Mexico.
Many of us have grandparents, or parents, that are very Mexican, so we have a connection to that people. Many of us visit our family in Mexico and vice versa. Especially since Mexico is the US's neighbor, we have the ability to maintain closer ties to family in the "old country" than other groups that have immigrated to the United States.
But from my experience, Mexican-born kids will most likely hang out with themselves, while Chicanos will probably stick to themselves, because they relate better to each other. It's not rivalry, it's just which group you have more in common with.
Mexican-born kids are probably going to be into soccer and corridos/norteno music or rock en espanol, and the Chicanos are probably going to like baseball/football/basketball and listen to hip hop or punk or whatever.
But even then, there's many Chicanos who will hang out and talk Spanish with some Mexicans, or there's a Mexican born person who can talk English and will hang out with a Chicano group.
Many Chicanos grow up in places where Spanish is commonly spoke. From my experience, it doesn't hinder the speaking of English, but the Chicanos are used to it. They don't shy away from it like people who aren't exposed to Spanish a lot. In other words, a Mexican person being Mexican isn't a big deal to a Chicano. They can either get a long, or they don't.
The thing about Mexicans/-Americans, is we're pretty blunt people. We'll tease each other in a way that isn't common with Americans.
Mexicans/-Americans have no problem giving a chubby girl a nickname like "gorda" or "gordita", and it won't be taken as offensive. Or even affectionately calling someone "feita" , "little ugly one". It sounds mean for Americans, but it's not always meant to be, and it's not always taken to be.
So you'll see Mexicans calling Chicanos a "pocho" or "gringo", or tease someone pretty hard for not speaking Spanish when they are "Mexican".
Also, you'll hear Chicanos tease Mexicans as mojados, paisas or whatever.
Maybe sometimes it's meant as offensive, but I can safely say that most of the time it isn't.
We just like to talk a lot of trash to each other.
The difference, me Amigo, has to do with your country. I cannot go to Mexico and come home with a Mexican baby, nor can I legally immigrate and vote in any election. And if I get arrested for sneaking over the border I go to jail. The only reason a mexican says they are American when the parents wee illege is because of an anchor baby law that desperately needs to be changed to discourage bad behavior. A child, regardless of his parent's immigration status, not conceived on American soil is not American in my eyes. He/she is a product of the country where he was conceived. Therefore if you were conceived in old Mexico I would consider you Mezucan and not a Mexican-American - unless of course you went thorugh the legal process to become an American. .
The difference, me Amigo, has to do with your country. I cannot go to Mexico and come home with a Mexican baby, nor can I legally immigrate and vote in any election. And if I get arrested for sneaking over the border I go to jail. The only reason a mexican says they are American when the parents wee illege is because of an anchor baby law that desperately needs to be changed to discourage bad behavior. A child, regardless of his parent's immigration status, not conceived on American soil is not American in my eyes. He/she is a product of the country where he was conceived. Therefore if you were conceived in old Mexico I would consider you Mezucan and not a Mexican-American - unless of course you went thorugh the legal process to become an American. .
Too bad what you think doesn't matter much. The law is the law, isn't it?
I am an American of Mexican descent with a long family history in the US and there is some tension between Mexicans from Mexico and Chicanos. SOME Mexicans (legal and illegal immigrants from Mexico) get mad if we don't speak Spanish here and only English and say that we are no longer a true Mexican or that we have lost our culture. On the other hand, other fellow Americans make me feel unwanted when they refer to us as "illegal aliens" or don't accept us as being "true" Americans. Sometimes it is hard for me, but I get over it because I know what I am and what I'm not. I love my Mexican culture and no one can take that away, but I also appreciate my country and being American as well.
I am an American of Mexican descent with a long family history in the US and there is some tension between Mexicans from Mexico and Chicanos. SOME Mexicans (legal and illegal immigrants from Mexico) get mad if we don't speak Spanish here and only English and say that we are no longer a true Mexican or that we have lost our culture. On the other hand, other fellow Americans make me feel unwanted when they refer to us as "illegal aliens" or don't accept us as being "true" Americans. Sometimes it is hard for me, but I get over it because I know what I am and what I'm not. I love my Mexican culture and no one can take that away, but I also appreciate my country and being American as well.
Those idiots refer to Americans of 'Mexican' background as pochos. Stupid I realize on the former's part.
I am in part of Hungarian lineage (father is from there) but I self identify as an American-----------never mind that some Hungarians have tried to rag on me for not speaking their lingo. I just looked at them in disgust.
Those idiots refer to Americans of 'Mexican' background as pochos. Stupid I realize on the former's part.
I am in part of Hungarian lineage (father is from there) but I self identify as an American-----------never mind that some Hungarians have tried to rag on me for not speaking their lingo. I just looked at them in disgust.
It really comes down to "what team are you on?" We wave the flag of stars and stripes.
It really comes down to "what team are you on?" We wave the flag of stars and stripes.
Yeppers.
That stated: I (probably) qualify as a Son of the Confederacy due to my mother's heritage and if I were at a Civil War re-enactment, I would fly the Stars and Bars (which would have nothing to do with racism under the circumstances). Otherwise: Old Glory and nothing else!
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I guess that most of the posters have answered the OP already, imho people are people and they will get along or not depending on many factors, not just sharing a common background.
That's why I like to see myself as a world citizen, I like to assimilate everywhere I go LOL, there is no Mexican, American, German, French, etc for me.
There is only people, only hearts and souls
But like others previously said, there are some people that expect Mexican americans to speak spanish and scold them for not doing so, I find that rude, but on the other hand, when I've been in the USA in areas where there are lots of Mexican Americans and I hear spanish people gets surprised if I adress them in spanish LOL
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