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Old 06-23-2009, 04:17 PM
 
Location: California
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LAFAYETTE - It is hot, there is no shade from the unforgiving Colorado sun, other than the hats that protect their faces.


Three people are helping Jason Condon and the Isabelle Farm grow organic radishes, lettuce, tomatoes and potatoes for sale mainly here, in Colorado.

Cory loves this job, a job that's becoming increasingly competitive.

Farmers can use what's called the H-2A program to recruit foreign workers to do temporary or seasonal work here in the U.S.

From July to September of 2008, there were 171 H2-A jobs posted. Thirty-nine Americans applied for those positions.

The very next quarter, in the final three months of 2008, 887 Americans applied for the 981 H-2A available. And as unemployment jumped at the beginning of 2009, so did applications from Americans; 1,799 applied for 726 jobs. That means instead of the jobs being filled by foreign or migrant workers, they are mostly going to U.S. residents.

Condon posted two farm hand positions on Craigslist in April. He said he had to turn people away. Thirty-eight people applied.

"We had people with doctorates, we had people with masters degrees we had people with all sorts of different career backgrounds," he said. "Carpenters, people who've worked on farms in other countries, people who have managed museums, all sorts of things you would never suspect you would find on a farm labor application."

"Growing food for people is kind of a powerful thing and once you kind of do it, it's surprisingly addictive," he said.

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Old 06-23-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Attention pro-illegals, Americans are taking back the "jobs Americans won't do". Better call MALDEF.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Pa
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B ut but I thought we americans are too lazy to do these jobs? I thought we americans are to weak willed to do these jobs?
Oh wait thats just the propaganda the proillegal crowd likes to spew to justify allowing illegals to stay.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Attention pro-illegals, Americans are taking back the "jobs Americans won't do". Better call MALDEF.
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B ut but I thought we americans are too lazy to do these jobs? I thought we americans are to weak willed to do these jobs?
Oh wait thats just the propaganda the proillegal crowd likes to spew to justify allowing illegals to stay.
As both of you stated.

(and, yes, the howls from the 'open border/amnesty' crowd are getting louder--------or, more desperate).
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Wow, there are jobs out there!

Sign me up.

Deportation is stimulus, yess!!
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Where laws can be ignored due to political correctness
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But Harry Reid and Diane Feinstein claimed that we need more foreign guest workers!
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Reeds Spring, MO
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^^This. There is no job out there an American will not do to feed their family. And this just proves it. Boot the illegals out and let our citizens fill those jobs. Welfare recipients as well. Do not let them sit on their behinds. Make them get out there and work. Tie it in to the farm subsidies. Make them hire the welfare recipients to recieve benefits to help supplement their income. This will boost taxes and help us drive out of this hole. It will also lower the amount of money spent on handouts.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:16 PM
 
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There are a lot of Americans desperate for work and will take even the most back breaking work. This just goes to show that Americans will do anything to put food on their family.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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That sounds really nice when people are having trouble to make ends meet, in 2008 there was 171 jobs posted and only 39 Americans applied. So if it was not for the IA/foreigners that took up those jobs, the positions would have gone unfilled.

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From July to September of 2008, there were 171 H2-A jobs posted. Thirty-nine Americans applied for those positions.

The very next quarter, in the final three months of 2008, 887 Americans applied for the 981 H-2A available. And as unemployment jumped at the beginning of 2009, so did applications from Americans; 1,799 applied for 726 jobs. That means instead of the jobs being filled by foreign or migrant workers, they are mostly going to U.S. residents.
Again, the crisis is not going to last long, and those Masters and Doctors are going to go back to their regular occupations, that are back on demand. If you eliminate programs like the ones they used to in order to get workers. Once things go back to normal, and they go back to having 39 applicants to 171 positions available, those businesses would be hard pressed to keep afloat.

As bostonian123 puts it:
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There are a lot of Americans desperate for work and will take even the most back breaking work. This just goes to show that Americans will do anything to put food on their family.
But what happens when those Americans are no longer desperate, and providing food and shelter for their family is not threatened. Will they still be willing to do even the most back breaking work? Or will they prefer to work in their original jobs leaving the most back breaking jobs vacant?
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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^^This. There is no job out there an American will not do to feed their family. And this just proves it. Boot the illegals out and let our citizens fill those jobs. Welfare recipients as well. Do not let them sit on their behinds. Make them get out there and work. Tie it in to the farm subsidies. Make them hire the welfare recipients to recieve benefits to help supplement their income. This will boost taxes and help us drive out of this hole. It will also lower the amount of money spent on handouts.
that makes perfect sense and that is why our congress will not do it.....
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