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Old 05-29-2008, 12:51 AM
 
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Ditto!

This reminds me of parents (of "biracial" children) asked the question "What is the best way to raise a biracial child?"

They responded that they never thought of themselves raising biracial children. They just raised children. Punto.
And the unfortunate children grow up deracinated and depressed, sometimes overcompensating for their confusion by, say, joining a radical church.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:15 AM
 
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And the unfortunate children grow up deracinated and depressed, sometimes overcompensating for their confusion by, say, joining a radical church.
Are you saying that out of personal experience?
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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And the unfortunate children grow up deracinated and depressed, sometimes overcompensating for their confusion by, say, joining a radical church.
A lot has to do where said 'biracial' child grew up------and, biracial can also refer to someone who has one non WASP immigrant parent-------like myself.

Note that my bio mother's family are de facto high end 'hillbillies' in a lot of regards and many of them did not consider Hungarians, etc. as being 'White'.

My father is from Hungary so I was saddled with a Godawful ethnic name (surname sounds Hispanic, if anything)------never mind that I am Nordic White in appearance.

Back to the flagrant examples of prejudice against true mixed race kids; by far the worst would be against children who are half Black. There is nowhere the stigma attached to children who are American Indian/Asian heritage-----especially if the family name is obviously Anglo.

Although; I have referred to one woman of Portuguese heritage as 'Hispanic' (a friend of mine), no insult intended here and she all but bit my head off------she stated, Bear, I am White, NOT Hispanic!, BTW: her last name was Santos.

It can be confusing.

Little piece of irony here: a famous 'Anglo' name in the Old South would be 'Taliaferro'-------despite its obvious Italian origin (Tagliaferro), it is actually an old English name. Many of its namesakes were slaveowners, etc. Note; it was usually pronounced/spelled Tollivar.
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:50 AM
 
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Although; I have referred to one woman of Portuguese heritage as 'Hispanic' (a friend of mine), no insult intended here and she all but bit my head off------she stated, Bear, I am White, NOT Hispanic!, BTW: her last name was Santos.
Well, she's right about her not being Hispanic.
Portuguese and Brazilians are not Hispanic.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:20 AM
 
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Well, she's right about her not being Hispanic.
Portuguese and Brazilians are not Hispanic.
Here in the USA; it depends upon which US government agency is doing the counting, some count Lusitanians as Hispanic-----other agencies count 'em as Anglo.

Especially considering that names like 'Garcia, Santos' etc. can be either.
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:08 AM
 
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Here in the USA; it depends upon which US government agency is doing the counting, some count Lusitanians as Hispanic-----other agencies count 'em as Anglo.
Anglo never came into my mind referring to Brazilians.

Can't one just be a non-Hispanic Latino?
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:08 AM
 
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Kind of telling that you apparently think of skin color when you refer to your "own people."
So? That's how people seem to separate, for the most part. White, black, hispanic, asian. Not always, but it seems that way in general - look at all the "special interest" groups for different races. Of course, if WHITES had any "special interest" groups, there'd be hell to pay!
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Anglo never came into my mind referring to Brazilians.

Can't one just be a non-Hispanic Latino?
Here in Arizona; any non Hispanic White person is counted as Anglo-----even North Africans, Iranians, etc.

Political label only, I realize.
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:57 PM
 
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Neutre: Portuguese and Brazilians are both non-Hispanic Latinos. I have a few Lusophone (Portuguese-speaking) friends who are sure to correct people if they are called "Hispanic" because Hispanic refers to a culture/background tracing its origins to Spain. Lusophones are Latino, not Hispanic.

Though AzBear recognizes that "Anglo" is a political label, millions of non-Hispanic/Latino white people in this country are NOT Anglo, including Italians, Iranians, Russians, Eastern European Jews, Lebanese, etc.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Actually the term 'Hispanic' has it's origins in Latin, and it refers to the people of the Iberian peninsula, meaning that Portuguese people are indeed 'Hispanic', whether they WANT to be classified that way or not.

Just ask a Portagee...
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