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You can't ask if someone is illegal or not. There was a case like this in Colorado a while ago.
Why not? Does Plyler v. Doe stipulate that while we must pay for the education of illegals, we are prohibited from determining the cost of said education? After all, determining the cost will not preclude educational opportunities for illegals. Since we are footing the bill, we should have a right to know how much we are paying for educating children whose parents have thumbed their noses at our laws.
UCSB (my alma mater!! Go Gauchos) is home to the very VERY prestigious Gevirtz School of Education. Essentially the cost was over $1 billion for those in CA not graduating high school (this did not include lost tax revenue in sales tax and in income tax...simply the cost of subsidies and criminal expenditures). Illegal immigrants comprises the most at risk population for not achieving a high school education or better.
Yes, we are all aware of the law which mandates the squandering of our tax dollars on illegal aliens. This law also has contributed to the overcrowding of schools, and huge budget deficits. Not only are we paying for the education of people whose mere presence is a violation of our laws, but also Mexicans who exploit this asinine law by commuting daily from Mexico to “get a better education.” Yes, we realize we are being abused. Thanks for the reminder.
Denying them an education does not further the goal of the state? Really? Does insolvency further the goal of the state?
By some of the postings one would be lead to believe that Mexico doesn't have any schools at all. I know for a fact a bunch of the kids in my local schools actually live in TJ yet they are bussed into the schools.
By some of the postings one would be lead to believe that Mexico doesn't have any schools at all. I know for a fact a bunch of the kids in my local schools actually live in TJ yet they are bussed into the schools.
I don’t believe we have ever experienced such widespread abuse of U.S. taxpayers. It’s bad enough we are forced to pay for the education of illegal aliens, but to pay millions to educate Mexicans who don’t even live here, is beyond absurd.
Why when we discuss immigrants, it's the Mexicans?? Do we not care about the Europeans here illegally. Are they bad, because they're from Mexico?? Or. are they bad, because they're illegal?
Why when we discuss immigrants, it's the Mexicans?? Do we not care about the Europeans here illegally. Are they bad, because they're from Mexico?? Or. are they bad, because they're illegal?
Because they are by far the majority and if you had to list all 50 or so Countries each time you'd get pretty tired.
Why when we discuss immigrants, it's the Mexicans?? Do we not care about the Europeans here illegally. Are they bad, because they're from Mexico?? Or. are they bad, because they're illegal?
Mexicans were mentioned in my post, because they are commuting here daily from Mexico to receive an education in our schools, and the taxpayers of this country are footing the bill due to Plyler v. Doe. When Europeans start flying here daily to receive an education on my dime, then I will mention them in this context.
School districts are not obligated under law to educate people who live outside of their school district zones, especially when they are across the border.
So it's not a really national concern over whether a school district educates some kid who lives across the border, because (assuming he or she is being honest about where she lives when reporting to school officials) any one of these things is true:
* 1. The student is paying tuition to the American district
* 2. The school district is choosing to allow the student into the school tuition-free, provided there is space available not held by any American kids - then it is a local taxpayer issue (or a state-wide if it's a Robin Hood scenario), not a national issue - It is an issue mainly concerning the district itself
If the Mexican kid is lying about the residency, then it's a matter of whether the school boundary officials are willing to check residency to determine whether the person is being honest.
This is NOT the same thing as students who are children of illegals or students who are illegals themselves who attend US schools
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Originally Posted by Benicar
Mexicans were mentioned in my post, because they are commuting here daily from Mexico to receive an education in our schools, and the taxpayers of this country are footing the bill due to Plyler v. Doe. When Europeans start flying here daily to receive an education on my dime, then I will mention them in this context.
School districts are not obligated under law to educate people who live outside of their school district zones, especially when they are across the border.
So it's not a really national concern over whether a school district educates some kid who lives across the border, because (assuming he or she is being honest about where she lives when reporting to school officials) any one of these things is true:
* 1. The student is paying tuition to the American district
* 2. The school district is choosing to allow the student into the school tuition-free, provided there is space available not held by any American kids - then it is a local taxpayer issue (or a state-wide if it's a Robin Hood scenario), not a national issue - It is an issue mainly concerning the district itself
If the Mexican kid is lying about the residency, then it's a matter of whether the school boundary officials are willing to check residency to determine whether the person is being honest.
This is NOT the same thing as students who are children of illegals or students who are illegals themselves who attend US schools
Do you think it's not happening? How many videos of this situation do you need to view? It's all over the net.
These Illegals crossed years ago, had an anchor then went back to Mex when they couldn't pay their mortgage on the house they bought with fake income and documents(fraud). Yet the good sucker tax payers allow them to jump a bus at the border to their school of "CHOICE" for their kids education.
This reeks to no end and it speaks volumes about the character of the trash that pulls this off.
I'm not saying that it's not happening. I'm saying that it's a simple matter of school district policy. Each school district lets it happen or doesn't let it happen. As the "Mexican Kids Cross Border Daily For Free U.S. Education" story states, one school district decided to change its policies.
A similar same principle is the case with "out of district" students attending an "in-district" school within the US. Some districts let kids come in for free, some let them come in if they pay tuition or if a parent works for the district, or some don't let it happen at all. Some districts have different policies for out of state or out of country students.
"These Illegals crossed years ago, had an anchor then went back to Mex when they couldn't pay their mortgage on the house they bought with fake income and documents(fraud)." - But if the school district knows that the family is now in Mexico, and the family is being honest about it, then the ball is in the school district's court. If the district lets the kids attend anyway, then it's a matter of district policy. Whether the parents are saints or devils - it's irrelevant. It's the school district letting it happen.
A child's residence is usually the same as the residence of her parent or custodial parent. If school officials have doubts about custody or your proof of New York City residence, they can investigate (a "407 Investigation") to see if you are the child's sole caretaker or if you live where you say you do. During the investigation your child has a right to continue attending school.
If a child's parents are separated or divorced, the child attends school where the parent who has primary custody lives. If the custody is shared, the child's residence is that of the parent who has primary physical custody.
If a parent and child live with another family or relative and do not have a lease in their own name, they may request that the leaseholder write a letter stating that they live in that apartment. The school officials may check to see if the child actually lives at the given address - and may make a home visit to see if the child has clothes and toys at that address.
A child who is not residing with the custodial parent may be excluded from the school zoned for the area where she does live. For example, a student may live with her grandmother, while her father lives at a different address. Since her father is still her parent and retains responsibility for his daughter's welfare , she does not have a right to attend the school in her grandmother's zone. Only if her father had abandoned her or was for some reason incapable of taking care of his daughter, would the grandmother's residence be the girl's residence and the place that determined her school zone. This policy was largely devised as a way to make sure that families were notsending their children to live with relatives as a way to take advantage of better schools in that zone.
If you and your child are living in temporary housing or a shelter, your child has a right to attend school in your temporary community, or if you choose, at her original school, under a state law called the Stewart B. McKinney Homeless Assistance Act (PL 100-77) of 1987.
AngryTaxPayer: Do you want to propose a state law requiring tuition at any school district for out of country students?
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Do you think it's not happening? How many videos of this situation do you need to view? It's all over the net.
These Illegals crossed years ago, had an anchor then went back to Mex when they couldn't pay their mortgage on the house they bought with fake income and documents(fraud). Yet the good sucker tax payers allow them to jump a bus at the border to their school of "CHOICE" for their kids education.
This reeks to no end and it speaks volumes about the character of the trash that pulls this off.
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