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the only way to change the Constitution is an Amendment, but NO one will support that since it will be political suicide to do so (so you're deluded to even think so)
the 14th Amendment has lasted 200 years of court cases and law; no one is going to change it
so deal with it.
dont like our laws, go and Live somewhere else. Like North Korea.
I agree...Now , if we could only convince the illegals, and their supporters to do just that....
the only way to change the Constitution is an Amendment, but NO one will support that since it will be political suicide to do so (so you're deluded to even think so)
the 14th Amendment has lasted 200 years of court cases and law; no one is going to change it
so deal with it.
dont like our laws, go and Live somewhere else. Like North Korea.
You are wrong. It will be changed. Just because someone disagrees with one law they should move to another country? Guess we could say the same thing to the pro-illegals then, right? They don't like our immigration laws so perhaps THEY should move to another country.
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No it won't and no amount of delusional thinking on your part will matter.
Again for the impaired people who do not understand this issue;
Citizenship is defined by the Constitution.
Constitutional changes requires an Amendment to be made
the 14th Amendment was done because of the issue of citizenship
200 years of case law and supreme court rulings favored that anyone born here, is a CITIZEN from birth no matter who their parents are
Anyone who is going to propose an Amendment (the only way citizenship can be changed) will be committing political suicide, because of the fact that we are a nation built on immigrants, illegal or otherwise.
Dont like that the 14th Amendment controls citizenship, then get yourself elected to congress and propose an Amendment.
Of course, that will not happen; and no congressperson worth his salt and ego will ever do such a thing
Don't like it, deal with it. You can always move to Iran where citizenship is only afforded to those born there and to only men.
The 14th Amendment can be reworded to it's true definition and to remove the loophole. Which is what your definition comes from.
No, the Amendment can't be changed. And true definition of the 14th amendment is QUITE clear. That those born here or naturalized are CITIZENS of the US.
Don't know why you 14th amendment deniers think it has any other meaning.
If it had any other definition, it would be in the AMENDMENT in black and white. The 14th Amendment was drafted to clear up who could be citizens of the US. And it applies EQUALLY to every single person in the US.
There is no loophole.
Only racists and 14th amendment deniers think there is.
No it won't and no amount of delusional thinking on your part will matter.
Again for the impaired people who do not understand this issue;
Citizenship is defined by the Constitution.
Constitutional changes requires an Amendment to be made
the 14th Amendment was done because of the issue of citizenship
200 years of case law and supreme court rulings favored that anyone born here, is a CITIZEN from birth no matter who their parents are
Anyone who is going to propose an Amendment (the only way citizenship can be changed) will be committing political suicide, because of the fact that we are a nation built on immigrants, illegal or otherwise.
Dont like that the 14th Amendment controls citizenship, then get yourself elected to congress and propose an Amendment.
Of course, that will not happen; and no congressperson worth his salt and ego will ever do such a thing
Don't like it, deal with it. You can always move to Iran where citizenship is only afforded to those born there and to only men.
Our founders were all illegal immigrants to North America. The Native Americans were the first citizens of North America, and with the landing of the first settlers to America, they were all illegal immigrants.
You want to play semantics, then there you have it; we are descendants of illegal immigrants.
Our founders were all illegal immigrants to North America. The Native Americans were the first citizens of North America, and with the landing of the first settlers to America, they were all illegal immigrants.
You want to play semantics, then there you have it; we are descendants of illegal immigrants.
Oh, another one living in the past. There were no immigration laws when the first settlers arrived on these shores. I am not a descendant of an illegal alien. My ancestors came here well after this country was already established as the USA and within the immigration laws in place at the time.
Throughout history wars have been fought and lands have exchanged hands. This wasn't just something that happened here in the USA. No one is native to an entire continent either. The native indians were from different locals and from different tribes. Even the native indians migrated from somewhere else. Since my ancestors were native to the continent of Europe does that mean they should have the right to take up residence in any country in Europe without their permission even though they were from Ireland and Poland?
No, the Amendment can't be changed. And true definition of the 14th amendment is QUITE clear. That those born here or naturalized are CITIZENS of the US.
Don't know why you 14th amendment deniers think it has any other meaning.
If it had any other definition, it would be in the AMENDMENT in black and white. The 14th Amendment was drafted to clear up who could be citizens of the US. And it applies EQUALLY to every single person in the US.
There is no loophole.
Only racists and 14th amendment deniers think there is.
It can be re-interpreted. You don't know what you are talking about. What does racism have to do with not wanting to give away our precious citizenship to children of illegal aliens? Illegal aliens are not just from one race.
No it won't and no amount of delusional thinking on your part will matter.
Again for the impaired people who do not understand this issue;
Citizenship is defined by the Constitution.
Constitutional changes requires an Amendment to be made
the 14th Amendment was done because of the issue of citizenship
200 years of case law and supreme court rulings favored that anyone born here, is a CITIZEN from birth no matter who their parents are
Anyone who is going to propose an Amendment (the only way citizenship can be changed) will be committing political suicide, because of the fact that we are a nation built on immigrants, illegal or otherwise.
Dont like that the 14th Amendment controls citizenship, then get yourself elected to congress and propose an Amendment.
Of course, that will not happen; and no congressperson worth his salt and ego will ever do such a thing
Don't like it, deal with it. You can always move to Iran where citizenship is only afforded to those born there and to only men.
The Constitution has been amended once or twice already. It can be done again.
Just because something has worked for two hundred years does not mean it is working now. We never had this problem - at this magnitude - before.
It's not right that illegals (and other tourists who pay to do so) can come here and give birth to Americans.
Others have said this before... this practice cheapens American citizenship.
No, the Amendment can't be changed. And true definition of the 14th amendment is QUITE clear. That those born here or naturalized are CITIZENS of the US.
Don't know why you 14th amendment deniers think it has any other meaning.
If it had any other definition, it would be in the AMENDMENT in black and white. The 14th Amendment was drafted to clear up who could be citizens of the US. And it applies EQUALLY to every single person in the US.
There is no loophole.
Only racists and 14th amendment deniers think there is.
laws can be changd
tha 14th aint no sacred cow
soon no mor anchor babys
that day is comin
trust me
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