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Old 07-15-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Carmel, Indiana
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He is not encouraging you to be miserable, he is just suggesting that if the presence of agriculture is depressing to you, you may find yourself depressed in many places.
That's not what I read:
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then I would suggest that you're going to be miserable in virtually every state in this country.
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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That's not what I read:
Seems you should at least do him the courtesy of reading the entire sentence.

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And if being around agriculture causes you to be depressed, then I would suggest that you're going to be miserable in virtually every state in this country.
It is pretty clear to me that he is suggesting that if being agriculture causes you to be depressed, you may well find yourself depressed in a lot of places. I don't see what is so unreasonable about that. Away from Chicago, Illinois is filled with empty fields and vast nothingness. 30 miles southeast of Tampa is vast nothingness. You don't even have to go more than maybe 20 miles west of Miami before you end up in a giant swamp.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Carmel, Indiana
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Seems you should at least do him the courtesy of reading the entire sentence.
I actually did read the entire sentence.


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It is pretty clear to me that he is suggesting that if being agriculture causes you to be depressed, you may well find yourself depressed in a lot of places. I don't see what is so unreasonable about that.

What's so misunderstanding about it is the way he structured his sentence. I don't know if he arranged the words wrong or used "suggest" incorrectly, but his sentence doesn't physically make sense. Pretty sure we all knew what he meant though.

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Away from Chicago, Illinois is filled with empty fields and vast nothingness. 30 miles southeast of Tampa is vast nothingness. You don't even have to go more than maybe 20 miles west of Miami before you end up in a giant swamp.
Your point? Who's just going to go for a ride in the Everglades or in the middle nowhere? Tampa is 20 miles from beaches... Miami is ON the beach... Indianapolis? Nothing but those fields. Chicago? Lake Michigan... yay In Florida, the "vast nothingness" can be easily avoided.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I actually did read the entire sentence.




What's so misunderstanding about it is the way he structured his sentence. I don't know if he arranged the words wrong or used "suggest" incorrectly, but his sentence doesn't physically make sense. Pretty sure we all knew what he meant though.


Your point? Who's just going to go for a ride in the Everglades or in the middle nowhere? Tampa is 20 miles from beaches... Miami is ON the beach... Indianapolis? Nothing but those fields. Chicago? Lake Michigan... yay In Florida, the "vast nothingness" can be easily avoided.
315 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area 10.5%
lol dude when you move you get what you get in Flordia.
Currently Unemployment in Tampas metro area is 10.5% as of the latest Bureau of Labor stats. Indianapolis's metro is at 7.8%. So Good luck finding a job cause youll need it. I could go also go into how the housing market just basically crashed to nothing in Flordia but ill save that for another time. Moving in a bad economy is not a good idea even if you are not happy with the landscape suck it up and be happy you atleast have a job. over 20,000,000 americans would love to have a job lol.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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I'm aware of that. But I would like a place where I can get away from the agriculture. Where can you do that in Indiana? You're surrounded by it. Hundreds of miles of fields. It's DEPRESSING. Key word there. That's why I'm here, to explain what I find depressing. I don't need people bashing me and countering my opinions. Not saying that you are, just others have been.
Indiana isn't for me. If it's for you people, good. Fine. I'm getting out of here.
The thing is, saying Indiana is a depressing place for you is a valid statement (when I was young I was a "city girl" and would have felt the same way). To say it's a depressing place in general isn't a valid statement, because for a lot of people, it's not.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Your point? Who's just going to go for a ride in the Everglades or in the middle nowhere? Tampa is 20 miles from beaches... Miami is ON the beach... Indianapolis? Nothing but those fields. Chicago? Lake Michigan... yay In Florida, the "vast nothingness" can be easily avoided.
Ahh, so your problem with Indianapolis is lack of beaches and rage toward corn, that you claim is so abundant in the city? I gotcha now.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Carmel, Indiana
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315 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area 10.5%
lol dude when you move you get what you get in Flordia.
Currently Unemployment in Tampas metro area is 10.5% as of the latest Bureau of Labor stats. Indianapolis's metro is at 7.8%. So Good luck finding a job cause youll need it. I could go also go into how the housing market just basically crashed to nothing in Flordia but ill save that for another time. Moving in a bad economy is not a good idea even if you are not happy with the landscape suck it up and be happy you atleast have a job. over 20,000,000 americans would love to have a job lol.
Want to play that game? Alright.
Here's some statistics for you:

Tampa Metropolitan Area Population: 4,228,855 as of 2010 = 10.5% = 444,029 Unemployed
Indpls Metropolitan Area Population: 1,834,672 as of 2010 = 07.8% = 143,104 Unemployed

If Indianapolis had a 10.5% unemployment (same as tampa bay area), the # of unemployed would be approximately 192,640.
Now, what is the population of Tampa divided by the population of Indianapolis?
2.305
Now take
The 192,640 from above and multiply that by the 2.305. That's Indianapolis's Unemployment in comparison to Tampa's if Indianapolis had the same population.
Indianapolis's is approximately 444,035
Oh, what's that? That's more than Tampa's 444,029?

You're wrong.
Indianapolis is worse. Barely.
Have a nice day.



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The thing is, saying Indiana is a depressing place for you is a valid statement (when I was young I was a "city girl" and would have felt the same way). To say it's a depressing place in general isn't a valid statement, because for a lot of people, it's not.
It's an opinionated statement I made. Therefore, it IS valid. I find it depressing. So it is, for me. I understand it's not depressing for a lot of people but for me, yeah, it is.


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Ahh, so your problem with Indianapolis is lack of beaches and rage toward corn, that you claim is so abundant in the city? I gotcha now.
Actually, it's not about the beaches. Did you forget the list I made way back?
You mentioned Tampa and Miami, two places very close to the beach; closer than to those areas of "vast nothingness." So I used the beach because you said there was vast nothingness near both those areas. You can easily avoid the nothingness.

Well, that was a workout...
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:37 PM
 
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Maybe the person might find Indiana depressing but odds are, it's not the state, maybe she's just boring who knows. Indy has a very happening night life either downtown on south meridian, broad ripple or fountain square. Great arts scene. IMA considered one of the best, Childrens 18th most visited in the nation and the new urban art considered one of its kind. Great theatre and downtown has more open green spaces then most downtowns whether it's on the canal, wrsp or american legion mall.

Coming from a urban area (Gary), she could go up to Chicago, live in the burbs, something tells me definitely not a city person esp. one like Chicago and make the long commutes to the beach or actually live in Chicago and complain and moan about the taxes there. Indy is a nice balance of urban and suburban.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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Funny, mentioning the beaches of Florida. You'd be surprised how when you live in a beach area how very little u actually goto the beach. Grew up a mile from Lake Michigan and after awhile it becomes an afterthought. I travel to Tampa/St. Pete once a month and still haven't been to the beach but have had plenty of time on the sunshine bridge going to Sarasota.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Escape317 View Post
Want to play that game? Alright.
Here's some statistics for you:

Tampa Metropolitan Area Population: 4,228,855 as of 2010 = 10.5% = 444,029 Unemployed
Indpls Metropolitan Area Population: 1,834,672 as of 2010 = 07.8% = 143,104 Unemployed

If Indianapolis had a 10.5% unemployment (same as tampa bay area), the # of unemployed would be approximately 192,640.
Now, what is the population of Tampa divided by the population of Indianapolis?
2.305
Now take
The 192,640 from above and multiply that by the 2.305. That's Indianapolis's Unemployment in comparison to Tampa's if Indianapolis had the same population.
Indianapolis's is approximately 444,035
Oh, what's that? That's more than Tampa's 444,029?

You're wrong.
Indianapolis is worse. Barely.
Have a nice day.




It's an opinionated statement I made. Therefore, it IS valid. I find it depressing. So it is, for me. I understand it's not depressing for a lot of people but for me, yeah, it is.



Actually, it's not about the beaches. Did you forget the list I made way back?
You mentioned Tampa and Miami, two places very close to the beach; closer than to those areas of "vast nothingness." So I used the beach because you said there was vast nothingness near both those areas. You can easily avoid the nothingness.

Well, that was a workout...
Uh Tampa-St. Pete is 2,783,243 as of 2010 census.
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