Indianapolis's population estimates are out! (Lawrence, Marion: schools, taxes, moving to)

[Broadrippleguy]

Newsroom: Population: Texas Dominates List of Fastest-Growing Large Cities Since 2010 Census, Census Bureau Reports

some words of note.
Austin, TX population is OVER estimated. using Austin's population growth and averaging it out for the past 10 years it should of only grown by 17,000 residents. not 34,000 residents. This was the same case for Atlanta a couple of years back. Census gives to generous of numbers in the estimates. not to mention how bad the economy is right now and how little people are moving.
2nd Chicago gaining population? ya right when pigs fly maybe the Census will be right on that. Only when Pigs Fly though. if anything the tax increases has acclerated people's flight out of Chicago and Crook County. Although the housing market crash and economy may just save Chicago's rear for the next 2-3 years. But still inching closer to Detroithood.
Finally its nice to see the census bring down Jacksonville a little bit. Indy is bigger than Jacksonville and its ironic the census will come up with these crazy boundries to boost other cities and bring down others.
Jacksonville isnt even half developed in its consolidated county. Indy only has parts of Franklin and Decatur Township left and that will be eaten up by 2030.
2nd curious to see what the real population of Indianapolis is and not just the *balance*.

[ischyros]

Wait, what? The census numbers are all that really matter to the government, not that fact that since you hate Chicago you can't imagine that people actually moving there. Also, as for Austin, averaging out a city's population growth for the past 10 years, doesn't mean the population growth is going to still be exactly that for the 15 months that this list takes into consideration. Austin is definitely a fast growing city.

[msamhunter]

Originally Posted by Broadrippleguy

Newsroom: Population: Texas Dominates List of Fastest-Growing Large Cities Since 2010 Census, Census Bureau Reports

some words of note.
Austin, TX population is OVER estimated. using Austin's population growth and averaging it out for the past 10 years it should of only grown by 17,000 residents. not 34,000 residents. This was the same case for Atlanta a couple of years back. Census gives to generous of numbers in the estimates. not to mention how bad the economy is right now and how little people are moving.
2nd Chicago gaining population? ya right when pigs fly maybe the Census will be right on that. Only when Pigs Fly though. if anything the tax increases has acclerated people's flight out of Chicago and Crook County. Although the housing market crash and economy may just save Chicago's rear for the next 2-3 years. But still inching closer to Detroithood.
Finally its nice to see the census bring down Jacksonville a little bit. Indy is bigger than Jacksonville and its ironic the census will come up with these crazy boundries to boost other cities and bring down others.
Jacksonville isnt even half developed in its consolidated county. Indy only has parts of Franklin and Decatur Township left and that will be eaten up by 2030.
2nd curious to see what the real population of Indianapolis is and not just the *balance*.

Knocking Jax for being a "consolidated" city all while giving praise to Indianapolis also being a "consolidated" city is a tad bit biased to say the least. BTW, outside of Center, every township has huge swaths of land open.

[rrah]

Seriously, you think the US government has it "out" for Indianapolis and fudges the census numbers? For what purpose?

[chalcedony]

The Census doesn't create boundaries for cities--the cities do, through annexation. Jacksonville consolidated its city boundaries with its county the same way Indianapolis did (two years earlier, in fact)--the big difference is that Duval County (J-ville) is more than twice as big as Marion County (Indy). Jacksonville may, at the moment, have a higher population than Indy, but it is not as densely populated as Indianapolis, which is saying something, because Indy is a very low-density city as well. But Jacksonville is huge: nearly as big as the entire state of Rhode Island! The Census doesn't care to "bring down" cities any more than it tries to "boost" others. Honestly, it does a better job than most institutions at being impartial and just reporting the facts...the Census Bureau would suffer big-time politically if it showed reports that suggested that it prefers certain cities over others.

I'm not sure what makes you think Indianapolis is going to be "eaten up" by development--it's just not going to happen. Aside from Franklin and Decatur, Wayne and Warren also have huge swathes of vacant land, and people aren't moving there in droves. In fact, I saw somewhere that Warren township has been losing population for the last 20-30 years. Heck, even Pike Township has big chunks of undeveloped land. People, by and large, aren't moving to Indy when they can choose the suburbs with lower crime, taxes, better schools, etc. We can only hope that good leadership and economic development helps keep it so that people are moving into the city at a greater rate than they are moving out of Center Township. I still prefer the city myself because of the closeness to downtown and the greater diversity (as do many) but, realistically, Indianapolis is not going to fill up in twenty years--not a chance.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by chalcedony

In fact, I saw somewhere that Warren township has been losing population for the last 20-30 years. Heck, even Pike Township has big chunks of undeveloped land. People, by and large, aren't moving to Indy when they can choose the suburbs with lower crime, taxes, better schools, etc.

I am pretty sure every township gained population in the 2010 census, except for Center Township.

[Broadrippleguy]

Originally Posted by msamhunter

Knocking Jax for being a "consolidated" city all while giving praise to Indianapolis also being a "consolidated" city is a tad bit biased to say the least. BTW, outside of Center, every township has huge swaths of land open.

Washington Doesnt.......
Lawrence doesnt.
Warren has a small amount.
Wayne has maybe a field or 2 ill have to look.
Pike has maybe a field or 2.
Perry isnt.
Franklin ya.
Decatur ya.

And Toxic Toast i agree with you. Center was probably the only township to lose population.
Only one way to check. Use wikipedia on all the townships and then the offical census data.

[GregHenry]

Originally Posted by Broadrippleguy

Newsroom: Population: Texas Dominates List of Fastest-Growing Large Cities Since 2010 Census, Census Bureau Reports

some words of note.
Austin, TX population is OVER estimated.

No. Austin is now a larger metro area than Indy. Everyone projected this a few years ago.

[Broadrippleguy]

Originally Posted by GregHenry

No. Austin is now a larger metro area than Indy. Everyone projected this a few years ago.

not talking metro.
talking CITY limits.
Of course Austins metro is bigger its in the South. Where its holy land according to the people that relocate there. Until a Wild Fire or Big heatwave like this makes them think otherwise.

Also well Indy may have 2, 100 degree days how long is it going to be near or above that in austin?

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by Broadrippleguy

Washington Doesnt.......
Lawrence doesnt.
Warren has a small amount.
Wayne has maybe a field or 2 ill have to look.
Pike has maybe a field or 2.
Perry isnt.
Franklin ya.
Decatur ya.

Warren Township south of Washington Street is pretty wide open.

Pike Township due north and west of Eagle Creek and close to Trader's Point is fairly wide open.

This is what Eastern Lawrence looks like:

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...,83.33,,0,8.27