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Old 02-11-2023, 10:40 AM
 
Location: USA
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OP, it is uncertain how you'll be received as a teacher in Iowa, or anyplace else.

Many people do not want their children taught by someone they consider delusional.

Examples: White people claiming they're black, people identifying as furries, men saying they're women, adults stating they're children.

Good luck to you.
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Old 02-13-2023, 11:47 AM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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It wasn't my intention to make that comparison. I was merely trying to point out that most people would exercise caution in hiring anyone who may be outside of societal norms. If I saw a swastika tattooed on someone's body but they were the nicest person ever and showed no racial bias, I might hire them, but only after the interview process. Same goes for the person interviewing with camo and a NRA logo on their shirt. Same goes for someone who was obviously transgender. Like it or not, we do judge people all the time on their appearances alone. But I never said that I wouldn't hire a transgender person to teach if they were competent and had no agenda. The previous commenter though wanted to blow everything out of proportion.

A swastika (specifically a Nazi one) is not a mere fashion statement. We aren't talking about the Insane Clown Posse here... We are talking about a dangerous hateful ideology that is directly responsible for genocide.

"Showed no racial bias"? A swastika goes beyond racial bias. Nobody gets a Nazi symbol tattooed on them "because it looks cool." Its not the Egyptian ankh or the yin-yang symbol. Its not even the same as the traditional Hindu swastika.

And no offence but I don't trust a white non-Jewish person to be the best judge on whether or not someone has "racial bias."
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Old 02-14-2023, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Iowa
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A swastika (specifically a Nazi one) is not a mere fashion statement. We aren't talking about the Insane Clown Posse here... We are talking about a dangerous hateful ideology that is directly responsible for genocide.

"Showed no racial bias"? A swastika goes beyond racial bias. Nobody gets a Nazi symbol tattooed on them "because it looks cool." Its not the Egyptian ankh or the yin-yang symbol. Its not even the same as the traditional Hindu swastika.

And no offence but I don't trust a white non-Jewish person to be the best judge on whether or not someone has "racial bias."
Judging people by their looks is no different if their look is a swastika tattoo or transgender. You've made this bias abundantly clear before so no need to keep repeating it on my behalf.
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Old 02-14-2023, 03:49 PM
 
Location: USA
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A swastika (specifically a Nazi one) is not a mere fashion statement. We aren't talking about the Insane Clown Posse here... We are talking about a dangerous hateful ideology that is directly responsible for genocide.

"Showed no racial bias"? A swastika goes beyond racial bias. Nobody gets a Nazi symbol tattooed on them "because it looks cool." Its not the Egyptian ankh or the yin-yang symbol. Its not even the same as the traditional Hindu swastika.

And no offence but I don't trust a white non-Jewish person to be the best judge on whether or not someone has "racial bias."
Some consider transgender "women" to embody a dangerous hateful ideology that seeks to eradicate real women.

And some don't trust a man parading as a woman to be the best judge on whether or not someone has "transphobia bias."

Right or wrong, most don't want a swastika-tattooed person or transgender "woman" teaching their children.
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Old 02-15-2023, 08:48 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Judging people by their looks is no different if their look is a swastika tattoo or transgender. You've made this bias abundantly clear before so no need to keep repeating it on my behalf.

Wearing a swastika is a reflection of an adherence to a dangerous ideology involved in genocide, NOT "a look".
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Old 02-16-2023, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Iowa
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Wearing a swastika is a reflection of an adherence to a dangerous ideology involved in genocide, NOT "a look".
So you believe people can't be reformed? That once we are born we believe what we believe and can't change that the rest of our lives? I know many tattoos that have outlived relationships. So to believe that everyone with a swastika tattoo believes in dangerous ideologies now is as I have said, showing your biased nature, making you no better or worse than those who have a bias towards transgender people and proving the point I have been making all along. Thank you for your biased comment.
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Old 02-16-2023, 11:34 AM
 
Location: California
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So you believe people can't be reformed? That once we are born we believe what we believe and can't change that the rest of our lives? I know many tattoos that have outlived relationships. So to believe that everyone with a swastika tattoo believes in dangerous ideologies now is as I have said, showing your biased nature, making you no better or worse than those who have a bias towards transgender people and proving the point I have been making all along. Thank you for your biased comment.
I'd imagine a reformed nazi would have a swastika tattoo removed, or at least covered, if they wanted to be part of non nazi society and have a career like being a teacher. A loud and proud swastika tattoo owner probablly isn't reformed, and at the very least has thoughts and agendas beyond a non swastika tattood person and that's enough info to judge someone.
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Old 02-16-2023, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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I'd imagine a reformed nazi would have a swastika tattoo removed, or at least covered, if they wanted to be part of non nazi society and have a career like being a teacher. A loud and proud swastika tattoo owner probablly isn't reformed, and at the very least has thoughts and agendas beyond a non swastika tattood person and that's enough info to judge someone.
Rationalize all you want but you are still judging someone on looks and assumptions, no different that the previous people judging the transgender person and highlighting how hypocritical you are.
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Old 02-17-2023, 10:53 AM
 
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Rationalize all you want but you are still judging someone on looks and assumptions, no different that the previous people judging the transgender person and highlighting how hypocritical you are.
Parents want the best for their kids.....all teachers should be judged on their looks, and yes their tats.
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Old 02-17-2023, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Maui No Ka 'Oi
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A human is either XX or XY. You can take all the steroids you want, and change your looks as much as you want....you can identify with whoever or whatever you want ...BUT a human will still only be XX or XY.

I think transgenderism belongs in the privacy of a bedroom, and ONLY for ADULTS.
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