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Old 06-21-2010, 02:25 AM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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So lets hear it.
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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Aren't there enough proselytizing Muslim threads already?
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Just look at him, who wouldn't trust a guy with a face like that?

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Old 06-21-2010, 05:31 PM
 
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i dont know what your aiming for by starting this thread. i can only show you the truth, your the one who decides ultimately whether youll accept the truth or deny it. but, either way, insha allah, i hope you find what your looking for
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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i dont know what your aiming for by starting this thread. i can only show you the truth, your the one who decides ultimately whether youll accept the truth or deny it. but, either way, insha allah, i hope you find what your looking for
The same reason that so many Islamic threads are started here, with a wall of quotes in Farsi, which we can't understand, coupled with absolute statements about Muhammed's assertions.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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I'm surprised the the Islamic Information centre is so conservative nowadays, though.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:20 PM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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i dont know what your aiming for by starting this thread. i can only show you the truth, your the one who decides ultimately whether youll accept the truth or deny it. but, either way, insha allah, i hope you find what your looking for
Go ahead and show me, the truth will stand up to scrutiny.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So lets hear it.
Well lets be logical about this.

Who was Muhammad, what did he write?

The answer is NOTHING. He never wrote down a word of the Qur'an, just as Jesus never wrote a word of the bible.

Other people wrote down their "message" from their memories, thats part of the reasons the gospels aren't all the same.

So Muhammad and Jesus weren't complete charlatans, just Moderator cut: deleted who came later and said "I remember they said...." when most of them probably never even knew their "leaders".

Is that a good enough reason?

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Old 06-21-2010, 09:00 PM
 
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people recorded what the prophet said, then that narration/hadith/sunnah was passed from the prophets mouth to the minds of his companions, you have lets just say 12 people that followed him, those twelve people wrote what he said, they all matched. then those twelve were passed to more and more people, even if one of them got what he said wrong, there would be 11 others that got it right. this is the authenticity of the quran. the knowledge and writings have been passed down from generation to generation.

they even have books on the chain of authenticity that link people today all the way to the prophet himself. and the people arent written in those books unless it is confirmed by the person before them that they know everything that the person whos giving the knowledge knows. they make sure so it does not lose its authenticity, so even if every quran in the world was burned, there are people that can recite it word for word, you would think they were one of the people that followed the prophet, even after 1400 years.
but also the wives wrote down everything he did and said and how he acted and reacted in situations. his companions did as well.

if you would like to know more information heres a link...Islam Question and Answer - Claims that the Qur
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:08 PM
 
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if you read the quran front to back and not just read a chapter here and there, its in chronological order. theres some sties that say theres contradictions because in one verse it says do not go to prayer in a drunken state and then in anther it says dont drink at all, then people yell contradiction, but if you read the quran in the order it was written you would find that alcohol was permissable at one point in time and then later it was forbidden. theres narrations of people pouring out their alcohol, some were even making themselves vomit if they had been drinking it. immediately muhammad stopped a nation of people from drinking and when the united states tried to ban alcohol they couldnt. so many people were being arrested and thrown in jail it was too much for the us to handle. so they gave up. they made it legal again. nothing changed. however when the prophet said it, immediately people stopped and didnt want to drink anymore. humdallah... the only real way to find out if the quran is true or not is by reading it with an open mind.... it all makes sense, i dont know what doesnt...
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