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Could you say that your base is $73K which is what the pay stub will show you and that you will be getting a 15% bonus after completion of project X or in January whatever, making your effective salary $84K for 2015 and that's why you gave them that number - in this case $73K wouldn't have been an accurate representation of your current salary. They can't ask you for something that is to happen in the future, right?
Actually my mother is looking for a job and she tells them her salary is base plus whatever she's been told her bonus will most likely be which is paid out in March.
This will likely be my go to if I decide to be "mostly" honest and provide them a paystub. This is pretty realistic and I do have bonuses for completing extra productivity projects and such. Thank you
On second thought, why not just hand them your paystub like it's no big deal ? hold a poker face. ..
If they bring up why it doesn't reflect the higher salary, just look at them and say " my bonus isn't on there"
and then say " anything else ? "
This runs me into the issue of they have a hard number to work off of. Now they can say we only can offer a max raise of 15% from currenty salary or something. I know this has been done internally to me at my current company. I was vastly underpaid my first year and since I was promoted in the same company, I couldn't exaggerate my salary. They saw it and said, this is as high as I can get you without getting flagged.
bring your pay stub but black out all the financial information. if they want to verify you were compensated at your old job, that should do it without revealing numbers. Honestly, I think the ask is out of line
This is interesting that you've done this multiple times. I was under the impression that this would greatly hurt my chances. I wasn't sure if perhaps HR has certain guidelines to follow and require a hard number to work off of. Could you give me an example of how this went for you specifically?
You have to only consider companies that are interested in moving their businesses up the value chain. For that, I can help them, and I have a proven track record. The rest is a gamble on both sides. For businesses with HR guidelines, they can tell me the range if they want, otherwise everything is open for negotiation. Once you climb a bit into middle management, everything is subject to negotiation and deviation (sometimes requiring company president signature, so what? explain to him why you need me to work for you and get him to sign.).
This doesn't always work out, but then, I don't want to work at a company that will throw me scraps on top of what I'm making to come over to them, work hard, and make them 3-4-5-10x what they pay me in profits each year. It's indicative of good HR when a company tells you what a job pays (some big name silicon valley firms I have talked to do this), and it's equally indicative if they give you the day after thanksgiving off.
I'd go with this suggestion. You already lied to them once. Why not continue to deceive them and act in bad faith.
I can do without the judgement... I'm just stating the choices I've seen people consider in this circumstance. And slightly exaggerating your salary is pretty much the norm now a days if you're aware of how companies will low ball offer you to start the negotiation.
3. forge the pay stub. If they have the low morals to bully you into revealing personal information they have no right to in order to put you at a negotiating disadvantage you owe them nothing in return. Use Photoshop or whatever and forge the pay-stub.
Beat me to it.
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