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Old 10-19-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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Sorry, things have been hectic.

I did not show them the pay stub though they asked for it. I told them that my current employer considers it confidential and that any offer given should be based on my experience and skill set. The HR representative was younger and very sociable and said thats completely understandable.

Anyways, they initially did offer me the job starting at 85,000 with a 15,000 moving package. I said no, they countered with the same thing but added 7000 to the moving package. I said no again, they came back with a 88,000 salary and 22,000 moving package. I am supposed to decide by today but I think the answer is still no.
you're saying no? That's a great package - i work for a huge corporation and they usually only offer around 15k. Didn't they initially tell you 90-100k was in range? You should bring that up.

You could always ask for 90k and 15k moving and see what they say.
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Old 10-19-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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I really don't know what to do, I'm so on the fence
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Old 10-19-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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I also have to consider the expenses of breaking my lease, paying back a relocation package to my current company and such so a good chunk of the 22,000 will be spent
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Old 10-19-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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You are getting a $15k raise and a good reloc package out of the deal. How do the benefits compare? Future job options?

It's not a huge raise, but it's pretty good. I would consider it to be in the tempting range.
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Old 10-19-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Benefits are fantastic, the bonus structure is also much higher, and I will get an extra 2 weeks PTO than I currently have.

I also will owe a total of around $15,000 - 16,000 for the lease, payback and move.

Thing is, I really enjoy the job I have and have a lot of freedom in what I do with each day. I feel at the new place, that won't be the case
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Old 10-19-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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Tricky.

For me the extra 2 weeks of PTO would be very attractive. In monetary terms it's worth about $3k year at your salary rate, but free time for vacations and hobbies is hard to put a value on.

You would be clearing about $6k from the reloc, but most of it is going to goto taxes. Break even here.

It's hard to weigh a current, good position vs an uncertain future position. To me it comes down to whether you can see yourself in your current job for another 10 years. If you can see that, I wouldn't move for anything less than a 30% increase. But, you are going to get that and more.

My personal decision would be to take the new job, but I could see you passing on it too. Tough call.
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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I appreciate all the feedback fishbrains, I pushed it off to make the decision tomorrow.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:11 AM
 
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As you wish, but the horse isn't really that high. Not telling lies is actually pretty basic but I'm not your father.

Parting thought...are you ok working in a place where your coworkers have no integrity? Do you need to trust them? I know I do.
Are you crazy?? You can't trust your co-workers.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:14 AM
 
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I agree. I've never been asked to produce a paycheck stub...but honestly, one conversation with me, and you'd know I'm not lying about my prior salary or anything. Plus...as I said before...the HR people all know each other in my industry, so they can find out and verify whatever they need to.

I don't think I'd produce a paycheck stub (at least wtihout redacting some of the info), but I would just tell the employer that I'm uncomfortable with that. We can then part ways, if they insist. I don't WANT to work for a company that starts out assuming I'm lying.
THIS. Don't provide them with sh*t.
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