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Old 02-10-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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It's already leagalize by big Pharma in ever drug store. What are you talking about. This is how all of this started. When they founds ways to crack down on the pills they went to the next best thing on the streets. There was already a deman for the prduct because of the pills.
Exactly. Once the composition of the pills was changed to make them hard to break down, addicts switched to heroin and dealers were more than happy to oblige the addicted.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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Once you are addicted to heroin....its with you for life...almost impossible to kick....even if you do...1, 5,10, 20 years later...bam...back on it.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Mechanism of opiate addiction is completely different from other drugs -- ScienceDaily

For those discussing opioid addiction vs. cocaine/crack addiction.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:27 AM
 
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I've seen deals go in in parking lots in the industrial park where I work. When I was in school, only hard core "dirtbags" would ever go near the stuff...even in college when grunge was cool and heroin made a big comeback, it was only the "indie" kids, and the hard core ones, who would go near it.

Now it appears that kids view this stuff like weed used to be viewed, but it's so much more dangerous.
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I've seen deals go in in parking lots in the industrial park where I work. When I was in school, only hard core "dirtbags" would ever go near the stuff...even in college when grunge was cool and heroin made a big comeback, it was only the "indie" kids, and the hard core ones, who would go near it.

Now it appears that kids view this stuff like weed used to be viewed, but it's so much more dangerous.
So in your opinion kids are going straight to heroin? I think kids (and adults) are using opioid pills first and then when they get addicted to them and have problems getting them, then are turning to heroin and that is where the current heroin epidemic is coming from.
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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I just don't understand what possesses a kid to try an extremely dangerous life ruining drug like heroin even once. Especially a so called 'middle class' kid. Pot I can understand but heroin? It's crazy.
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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Bad parenting /thread
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Nassau County, Lawn Giland
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I just don't understand what possesses a kid to try an extremely dangerous life ruining drug like heroin even once. Especially a so called 'middle class' kid. Pot I can understand but heroin? It's crazy.

I don't either, but maybe it's because I didn't grow up middle class. In the 'hood, we saw firsthand what strung out looked like. You knew that even the drug dealers themselves had the golden rule "never get high off your own supply". I get the sense that suburban kids feel more invincible, like it can't happen to them? Or do they just not care? Whatever it is, it's VERY sad.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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I don't either, but maybe it's because I didn't grow up middle class. In the 'hood, we saw firsthand what strung out looked like. You knew that even the drug dealers themselves had the golden rule "never get high off your own supply". I get the sense that suburban kids feel more invincible, like it can't happen to them? Or do they just not care? Whatever it is, it's VERY sad.
I would think suburban kids are more likely to have the money to fund a drug habit.
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Nassau County, Lawn Giland
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I would think suburban kids are more likely to have the money to fund a drug habit.
Oh snap, having grown up SANS allowance, that NEVER occured to me. That's probably it.

Manchild in the Promised Land (Claude Brown) should be required reading in junior high. If anyone has teens, read this book with them. Guaranteed to crush any sexy fantasies they might have of heroine and heavy drugs.
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