Why do so many Angelinos think that a bush is a trash can?

[goodheathen]

People move around a lot and leave things behind.

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https://i.imgur.com/WHEYLVR.jpg

But seriously that is part of it, probably more in alleys than in shrubbery. Discarded items we see often are large and don't fit in trash cans or they are already full or it's difficult to even move the items to proper disposal locations.

[katie45]

Originally Posted by David Aguilar

We should be happy that most Angelenos don't use bushes, sidewalks, gutters, etc, as toilets for number two, as I've seen in Tijuana.

Unfortunately it does occur in CA, saw it happen and nearly gagged - woman was holding her toddler over a bush so the kid could do his #2!

[majoun]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

To say that something is not a valid point because Americans do it too is to engage in tu quoque, that is, "like you, like me". It is a logical fallacy. Sure, some native-born Americans do do what you described, but it is also the case that poor immigrants do it even more commonly. Why?

• The poor immigrants generally have fewer ties to the community than do the natives;
• The poor immigrants tend to be tenants, who, as a group, have fewer if any concerns about maintaining property values;
• The poor immigrants tend to be younger than the native population and thus tend to consume perishable food or drinks on the street due to cramped living conditions and the fact that they walk more often than the natives;
• The poor immigrants come from very different cultural backgrounds than most natives and those immigrants hail from places where public littering is not scorned as highly as it by most belonging to the native population.

I do respect the point about the poster and perhaps there is a tendency to be extreme. I understand that and respect your point of view. However, that does not make his viewpoint invalid in this case .

Every ethnic group in L.A. "tends to be tenants". In the rich hoods even more so.

Trash doesnt seem to have much to do with property values in L.A. (which was a very clean city before Prop 13 and public unions - if you look at films of L.A. from 50-60 years ago even the worst areas were cleaner than Brentwood today.)

The people who litter the least are native born middle class Californians of a certain age. California in the late '60s and early '70s did a thorough job of shaming people out of littering, even more than the rest of the US. (That was probably the inspiration behind the shaming of smokers, which also for whatever reason worked far more in California than elsewhere, even in places with similarly draconian laws like New York.) Native born older middle class Californians are a dying breed in Los Angeles. People from the rest of the US don't have the same stigma attached to littering. And the Millenials, regardless of where they're from, feel they're immune to rules and that obeying the law is "for the poors".