Pasadena - new Armenian memorial

[BeatAngMoh]

Asians and Hispanics have also faced historical discrimination and by far more than the Irish who still bear white skin and get a pardon (past and especially present). Has any other race been incarcerated in their own country during a war? Other than the Jews in Germany, the Japanese were sitting behind barbed wire before being stripped of their wealth and livelihood. No one in this country has been the subject of more injustices than Blacks.

[909er]

White privilege

[ryanms3030]

Originally Posted by Mr_Geek

Let this thread forever exist as an example of how to turn something positive into a racist filled hate rant.

Once again, Armenian is not a race. I am white, they are white. Where is the racism? It is about morals, values, behavior, respect for fellow citizens...not about race.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by ryanms3030

Once again, Armenian is not a race. I am white, they are white. Where is the racism? It is about morals, values, behavior, respect for fellow citizens...not about race.

If someone had never encountered any Irish people and judged all Irish people based on the behavior of young men in Southie....

[StreetLegal]

Originally Posted by ryanms3030

I'm also half Irish and grew up in Boston and the Irish immigrants endured more descrimiation and harassment then any group other than blacks in the United States. People accept St Patrick's Day because it has nothing to do with St Patricks Day in Ireland. In the US it's about drinking, same reason everyone enjoys Cinco De Mayo. The true St Patrick's day is only celebrated in Ireland.

No, not at all. The Irish immigrants in the U.S. were subject to vicious caricatures and stereotypes; however, this prejudice did NOT translate into a system of racial subordination enshrined in law. Unlike African-Americans, the Irish could become citizens, vote, take legal suits, and move freely from place to place. Try being Japanese-American during WW II. Or a Native American from roughly 1776 through 1970. The Irish had it easy by comparison.

Originally Posted by ryanms3030

And growing up in Boston, I never saw anyone flying an Irish flag on the car. i rarely saw an Irish flag at all be it on someone's house or on a t shirt or patch or anything and there are not many people prouder of who they are then the Irish.

Of course you don't see many Irish flags because we are living in 2015, not 1875 or 1915 when your "people" were fresh off the boat. Back then Irish nationalism was rampant in the USA. Groups like the "United Irish League of America" agitated/protested for Irish independence and many Irish displayed Irish flags on U.S. soil. Not to mention the Irish immigrants who joined the Mexican Army to fight against their new "home" country during the US-Mexican War.

There was also significant Irish American support circa 1916 for building an alliance with our German enemies to punish the English at the end of World War I to agitate for an independent Ireland. Mass meetings and demonstrations of Irish-Americans were held to push for Irish independence. Irish Americans were a huge funding source to help Sinn Fein get elected in Ireland, which became a political party which supported terrorism. And you want to complain about putting up a monument to commemorate what the Armenians suffered under the Turks? Come on.

[HyperionGap]

Originally Posted by StreetLegal

No, not at all. The Irish immigrants in the U.S. were subject to vicious caricatures and stereotypes; however, this prejudice did NOT translate into a system of racial subordination enshrined in law. Unlike African-Americans, the Irish could become citizens, vote, take legal suits, and move freely from place to place. Try being Japanese-American during WW II. Or a Native American from roughly 1776 through 1970. The Irish had it easy by comparison.



Of course you don't see many Irish flags because we are living in 2015, not 1875 or 1915 when your "people" were fresh off the boat. Back then Irish nationalism was rampant in the USA. Groups like the "United Irish League of America" agitated/protested for Irish independence and many Irish displayed Irish flags on U.S. soil. Not to mention the Irish immigrants who joined the Mexican Army to fight against their new "home" country during the US-Mexican War.

There was also significant Irish American support circa 1916 for building an alliance with our German enemies to punish the English at the end of World War I to agitate for an independent Ireland. Mass meetings and demonstrations of Irish-Americans were held to push for Irish independence. Irish Americans were a huge funding source to help Sinn Fein get elected in Ireland, which became a political party which supported terrorism. And you want to complain about putting up a monument to commemorate what the Armenians suffered under the Turks? Come on.

Generally the people that make claims like his aren't very well educated in history. They only see what they want to see around themselves.