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[ABrandNewWorld]

Originally Posted by theraven24

I will take this cold weather over any kind of Florida weather at any time any day.

While I know you'd hate Florida summers, I'd think you'd actually enjoy South Florida's winters. Low humidity with lots of sunshine with a gentle breeze and highs in the 75-80 range and lows in the low 60s; about 5-7 days of short lived rain warm per month (followed quickly by sunny and 70s a couple of hours afterwards) and the water is similar to the temperatures of San Diego in September.

[theraven24]

Originally Posted by ABrandNewWorld

While I know you'd hate Florida summers, I'd think you'd actually enjoy South Florida's winters. Low humidity with lots of sunshine with a gentle breeze and highs in the 75-80 range and lows in the low 60s; about 5-7 days of short lived rain warm per month (followed quickly by sunny and 70s a couple of hours afterwards) and the water is similar to the temperatures of San Diego in September.

Perhaps, but I don't enjoy even a little humidity and I'm not a beach person. I'd rather be in cold Los Angeles.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by ABrandNewWorld

While I know you'd hate Florida summers, I'd think you'd actually enjoy South Florida's winters. Low humidity with lots of sunshine with a gentle breeze and highs in the 75-80 range and lows in the low 60s; about 5-7 days of short lived rain warm per month (followed quickly by sunny and 70s a couple of hours afterwards) and the water is similar to the temperatures of San Diego in September.

Right now, it's anything but low humidity (84 F, 64% relative humidity, real feel 87F) and highs are in the low to mid 80s, and lows are above 70. We are having a warmer than normal December, but then again this is December, and there are always plenty of highs above 80 in December. I always feel our 'comfortable' phase is mid January to mid February where it's consistently in the 70s, and rarely in the 80s.

Anyways, tourists have been blessed with some spectacular weather. My family has come to visit me for Christmas and New Years - they have been on the beach everyday, sun burnt, and raving about the weather.

[theraven24]

Back on topic, who else has been seeing ice on their lawns and cars?

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by NativeOrange

Actually, if I could alter SoCal's climate at all, I would keep the cool, rainy winters as the bulk of our precip, but add the occasional (2-3x per week) t-storm from June-September.

I don't think you want that. When we have T-storms that time of year, they're particularly violent. Back in June of '86 a lightening bolt hit a grounding wire just 50 ft. away from me -- no thanks!

[Podo944]

Originally Posted by ABrandNewWorld

Bring back that handsome humidity we had in September!

Naw...nothing all that handsome about a bunch of sweaty men!

Just shows once again, different strokes for different folks, AND also people change...
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and was used to HOT weather in summer. If it dipped under 70 degrees I had a coat on!

Fast forward to adulthood and living in Orange County... I met my second husband who lived in England, so I spent a little time there and I discovered English weather. That's when something in my DNA changed... maybe woke up my Finnish genes or something. Now I have very little tolerance to temps above 70 so the weather we're having now is WONDERFUL to me! It's invigorating, and refreshing and I sleep so much better at night! I love wearing sweaters and scarves and having it cold enough to turn the heater on just enough to warm things up is a cozy feeling to me.

Sigh... I dread when May comes around the hotter weather starts up again. Like poster capoeira, I'm a shut in when it's over 80 and don't go out for my walk until after dark.

[NativeOrange]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I don't think you want that. When we have T-storms that time of year, they're particularly violent. Back in June of '86 a lightening bolt hit a grounding wire just 50 ft. away from me -- no thanks!

I guess, but that could happen even in the lightest thunderstorm, and it can still happen with our regular winter storms occasionally.

I've been through severe storms in the Midwest, which is 10x more intense than the craziest thunderstorm I've ever seen in CA.

[ABrandNewWorld]

Originally Posted by NativeOrange

I guess, but that could happen even in the lightest thunderstorm, and it can still happen with our regular winter storms occasionally.

I've been through severe storms in the Midwest, which is 10x more intense than the craziest thunderstorm I've ever seen in CA.

Love 'em thunderstorms as long as they're not tornadic. In the tropics, they are brief but intense and very rarely form tornadoes. In the midwest, the clash between cold air and warm air can cause very dangerous severe weather including F4 and F5 tornadoes that can toss a well built sturdy home miles away; no thanks. Don't even start me on how terribly cold their winters are.

For those of you who hate heat, I have some good news for summer of 2016. Strong El Niños (which we are in) almost always flip into strong La Niña the following spring/summer.

Summer of 2016 will almost surely be La Niña; that means cooler than normal temperatures, especially at the coast, lots of marine layer, and below normal SSTs through next summer and fall. Remember summer of 2010? Summer of 2016 could be even colder than that. If you want sunshine and warmth next summer, the valleys will be the best bet for near average temperatures. The El Niño of 2009-2010 was moderate so the 2010-2011 La Niña cold epoch was also moderate. The La Niña of 2016-2017 will probably be much cooler; summer at Laguna Beach could feel more like summer in San Francisco . No hint of the Southwest desert monsoon will be found in the L.A basin next summer so any heat waves that we get will be purely dry heat.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by ABrandNewWorld

Love 'em thunderstorms as long as they're not tornadic. In the tropics, they are brief but intense and very rarely form tornadoes. In the midwest, the clash between cold air and warm air can cause very dangerous severe weather including F4 and F5 tornadoes that can toss a well built sturdy home miles away; no thanks. Don't even start me on how terribly cold their winters are.

For those of you who hate heat, I have some good news for summer of 2016. Strong El Niños (which we are in) almost always flip into strong La Niña the following spring/summer.

Summer of 2016 will almost surely be La Niña; that means cooler than normal temperatures, especially at the coast, lots of marine layer, and below normal SSTs through next summer and fall. Remember summer of 2010? Summer of 2016 could be even colder than that. If you want sunshine and warmth next summer, the valleys will be the best bet for near average temperatures. The El Niño of 2009-2010 was moderate so the 2010-2011 La Niña cold epoch was also moderate. The La Niña of 2016-2017 will probably be much cooler; summer at Laguna Beach could feel more like summer in San Francisco . No hint of the Southwest desert monsoon will be found in the L.A basin next summer so any heat waves that we get will be purely dry heat.

The summer of 2010 was a rarity, I was still living in California at the time (San Diego) and I never felt anything like it before. I actually felt like I was living in England. It was the most depressing summer of my life, especially since I literally lived on the Ocean where there was no break from the marine layer.

I doubt 2016 will be that extreme, let's hope for you guys. I remember apologizing to all the disgruntled tourists

[ABrandNewWorld]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

The summer of 2010 was a rarity, I was still living in California at the time (San Diego) and I never felt anything like it before. I actually felt like I was living in England. It was the most depressing summer of my life, especially since I literally lived on the Ocean where there was no break from the marine layer.

I doubt 2016 will be that extreme, let's hope for you guys. I remember apologizing to all the disgruntled tourists

Summer of 2010 was awful; summers of 2014 and 2015 (best weatherwise summers here ever!) actually had warmer nighttime lows than the daytime highs at the same time in 2010. But what goes up must come down which is why I fear 2016 could be even worse for those who want warmth at the beach. But the valleys should still enjoy highs in the 80s and full sunshine (but nights will be much cooler than last two summers even there) though.