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Old 01-25-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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Great fist post. Very well written. You should post more here. We will "agree" to disagree on Indy being big time, but you are right about their sports scene....very impressive for a midsized city.
Thanks. I think this study was already brought up, but just in case:

Stadium Seating - Interactive Features - Portfolio.com

If we assume that the NBA won't be looking to relocate a team into a market any smaller than OKC/NO/SLC, there are only 22 US NBA-less markets as large as the smallest current NBA markets:

There are seven markets that are already overcommitted with their existing franchises: Pittsburgh, Tampa-St. Pete, Kansas City, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Nashville. KC is the big news here, despite having the Sprint Center. Unless the Royals leave or fold, there is simply nowhere near the $$$ needed to support an NBA team, especially with KU down the street.

There are five more with huge territorial marketing right problems issues: Bridgeport-Stamford, Hartford, Providence, Austin, San Jose. San Jose has been brought up as a potential Kings relo site, but the Maloofs are probably holding out for Vegas.

There are four more markets with a bit of income capacity, but not nearly enough for an NBA team: Raleigh-Durham, San Diego, Jacksonville, Columbus.

That leaves only 6 decent candidates, all with issues of varying degrees:
1-Louisville=UofL lease, college hoops, Pacers conflict. I think there is enough support for both brands of hoops in town to make this work, and the other issues are workable.
2-Seattle, which lacks an arena and isn't quite where it needs to be from an income perspective to fully support NBA+MLB+MLS+NFL. They would still get the sentimental vote.
3-VA Beach/Newport News/Hampton Roads/Norfolk: too decentralized. There was a ton of infighting between municipalities when the last arena proposal came up. Everyone wanted it, and they were fighting on how to split the cost. Currently overcommitted financially due to the recent convention center project.
4-Vegas. Gambling.
5+6-Richmond and Birmingham. Don't know enough about either, other than neither has a suitable arena in place.

Going a little smaller from a market perspective doesn't bring up any strong candidates in new territories: Honolulu, Rochester, Omaha, Albany???

FWIW, the Kings, Hornets, Bobcats, and Grizzlies appear to be the teams most in trouble at the moment.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:39 AM
 
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Because Uof L controls the Fairboard who Opperates all venues where they would play.No home games while the Ville is in town and 75 percent of their games this year were home games.so no home games no money
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:59 AM
 
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Because nobody in their right mind would pay that kind of money for a ticket!
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Old 04-25-2011, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Near L.A.
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Because nobody in their right mind would pay that kind of money for a ticket!
^ This! Consider also that the NBA has turned to media over-hype crap in the last 15 years.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:52 AM
 
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Because nobody in their right mind would pay that kind of money for a ticket!
Gotta agree. for the money you would pay for one NBA ticket you could probly get a season ticket to see the Cards.
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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Indy also has trouble selling out the colts in the smallest NFL stadium.

I LOVE Indy Motor Speedway, though. It's the holy grail of auto racing
During the 2010 season the Indianapolis Colts' had an average home game attendance record of 66,975 which was 19th out of 32 NFL teams. Their road attendance record was 69,747 which is 6th in the league.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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After watching the Boston-Miami game today, I have no need whatsoever for an NBA team in Louisville. It was effectively a thug war of bad sportmanship between two inner-city gangs. I am certain had the players had guns, shots would have been fired. Oh so tragic to see such a fantastic athletic competition degraded into a clanish fued.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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It never says that ether of you are from Louisville. So i am assuming at least one of you isn't. Take it from someone who has lived in Louisville since they were born. Louisville CANNOT support an NFL team TRUST ME. Its not the size of the city, its just no one would ever attend the games. However, Louisville CAN support an MLB team or (my favorite and most likely to succeed in Louisville) an NBA team. Louisville is the perfect market for an NBA team and assuming the economy comes back to life I believe that Louisville will obtain one within the next 20 years. The state of Kentucky is one of (if not) the best basketball state in the country. Isn't it time to show that with a pro team?
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:13 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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Louisville isn't as much of a basketball city as Lexington. Rupp has the highest average attendance in the USA for basketball. More than 'cuse or any NBA team. Louisville is too close to Indy for such a small media market to support a basketball team. MLB? Maybe. Doubtful, though.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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Louisville isn't as much of a basketball city as Lexington. Rupp has the highest average attendance in the USA for basketball. More than 'cuse or any NBA team. Louisville is too close to Indy for such a small media market to support a basketball team. MLB? Maybe. Doubtful, though.
This statement does not make much sense. It requires a larger media market to support MLB than it does for NBA. There have been objective studies on this which show that Louisville is indeed too small for MLB but can support one team in any other sport. Louisville would easily support an NBA team and its media market is not small at all. It is still a top 50 media market. Lexington? Come on now. This is a true college town in every sense of the word.

The reason Louisville may not get an NBA is twofold. Number one, UofL has the Yum Center on lockdown with all revnue streams going to them; no NBA team will play second fiddle. And number two, Indiana would try to block the team since it would be so close to them, potentially eating up the S. Indiana market all the way to Seymour. Still, given the opportunity, Louisville would have a team with a top 10 attendance year in and year out. The only question about Louisville would be if there are enough corporate dollars for big suite purchases in addition to the insane amount local companies already spend on UofL, which sessentially charges the same prices as the NBA (or more after donation requirements) for season tickets and luxury suites, the two things that matter the most to an NBA franchise after TV market deals.
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