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Old 06-06-2019, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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2 points.

1. Yes people have made that argument, i disagree. I think Crowders intent here wasnt just to be light hearted( when has using those terms ever been light hearted ? If this was the N word , no one would be on Crowders side.

2. Youtube long ago demonitized LGBT creators for simply talking about what happened in their lives. Yet right wingers never stood up and defended them.

I think even if they disagreed with the issue as they claimed, they could have still stood up for the idea,which is what they claim they are doing for Crowder.

But it seems to me, they fail at this by simply choosing right over left.
I don't think YouTube chooses right over left. YouTube is very selective on who they deplatform and who they keep. Pewdiepie for example used the N word, and he still has 70 million subscribers. I highly doubt folks would abandoned Crowder for usage of the N word. If so, than 70 million subscribers would have banned Pewdiepie. YouTube had an adpocolypse last year, and everyone got affected. Like I said before, YouTube should go back to doing cat videos and hair tutorials and how-to videos like it did 15 years ago. What Crowder said was offensive to Maza, but in the eyes of YouTube it was not offensive thus no need to deplatform. However Crowder is now demontized. Also Google and most tech companies politically and ideally virtue signals towards the left and not right. Yes left pundits do get deplatformed. On Facebook for example a BLM was banned from facebook for a month because of her rhetoric about white supremacy. Sadly this BLM adocated for the censorship of Trump supporters and racists white men. When you call for censorship for one group of people. It creates a slippery slope for you and others to also be censored. Like I said before, I may not like what you say, or say to me. But you are in your right to say what you want to say. I just have to ignore it and move on. Social Media has become very toxic with alt right, social justice activism, pro black, feminism and white nationalist ideologies. Not for nothing I would love all of these echo chambers to disappear off of social media.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=isaxhi445Vc


Banning the populist nationalist red elephants and the pretty mainstream Crowder...THANK YOU YT! you just turned MILLIONS of people against you and they are now looking for alternate media sources and they will find SO much more than that,down the rabbit hole millions of mostly young folks go!
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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Youtube is not trying to pick political winners or losers. All they care about is money.
All of the major social media companies have a significant left-leaning bias. For example, #LearnToCode would get you banned from Twitter. The bias has been very clear.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:16 PM
 
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They BANNED a history teacher for using national socialist propaganda videos to teach his classes! Wow....SJWtube is gonna regret this...
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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https://amp.theguardian.com/technolo...deos-of-hitler
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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It's so funny how progressives are saying "it's a private company, they can do what they want," while in the past few years those same progs demanded that cake shops and pizza parlors be forced to do business with those they didn't wish to.

Progressives: consistently inconsistent.
Actually, you have it back-asswards.

SCOTUS ruled against progressives. I continue to think that a business licensed by the public should do business with any member of the public that walks through the door. But SCOTUS disagreed with me, so conservatives won on that one. The reality is that the ability of a private business to pick and choose its customers is the law of the land, and will remain so for the rest of my life, and possibly the rest of yours as well (I have no idea how old you are.)

Conservatives got what you fought to get, and now you're all huffy because you got what you wanted. Any idiot could have foreseen what the consequences of winning the baker's cases would mean. You were just so blinded by your hatred of gay people that you didn't bother to remember that the laws that apply to gay people also apply to you.

Color me completely unsympathetic.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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This is going to backfire on Vox and Carlos big time.

These types of things always do.

Be patient.

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This all started due to Carlos Maza of Vox complaining and wanting YouTube to deplatform Steven Crowder who is a libertarian comedian political pendant. The problem is that context matter when using speech which also includes jokes and being poetic while not being hateful to an individual or groups of people. Carlos Maza wanted voiced his opinion on twitter, and wanted YouTube to shutdown Steven Crowder. Problem is that Steven Crowder did not violate Youtube's TOS. Even though Crowder did not violate YouTube TOS, Maza wanted YouTube to deplatform him. Due to all of this, YouTube is now going stu to clampdown on not only white supremacy stuff, but against anything that is seemed hateful. I say this as a person who is not a fan of Crowder, and Maza is a decent writer. Anyway, youtube has the right to censorship, but once you silence one, and demanding the silence of one, you silence all people, and you also silence yourself. Federal Government needs to look into Google and Facebook in their practice of monopolization of the internet space.
It will backfire on him. So much evidence has already been screen shot and archived of all kinds of things that Mr. Maza has tweeted in the past, let alone his disgusting Reddit page. Not only that, Vox announced today that they "walked out" of their job (union members) until they got more pay - right after Carlos made a huge stink about Crowder mocking him for his lisp. That's what started it all - mocking about his lisp.

In the crossfire, YouTube banned a history teacher's channel. This teacher had gathered hundreds of hours of footage of WWII and Nazi Germany that he used to teach the kids in his class about that time. YouTube yanked it all down and banned his channel for "hate speech". It was FOOTAGE!
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:12 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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They have the right to do it, but it’s still concerning.
Agreed. I'm quite liberal and no fan of Nazis, Alex Jones, or hate groups in general. I agree that YouTube can get rid of anything they want. But whenever a company as huge as YouTube decides it wants to squelch unpopular opinions, no matter how disgusting or repugnant they may be, that isn't a good thing. Countless threads have been posted on how overly politically correct our society is already. It appears these posters might have justifiable concerns.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:23 PM
 
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/...oxadpocalypse/
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:04 PM
 
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YouTube announced plans on Wednesday to remove thousands of videos and channels that advocate for neo-Nazism, white supremacy and other bigoted ideologies in an attempt to clean up extremism and hate speech on the service. What about freedom of speech? Because YouTube is a private corporation, these videos are not protected under the First Amendment, so they can pull any videos they want. I support the right for people to be racists and bigots if they so insist upon it.
Good for you for supproting free speech, but I question the claim that the people and content they're banning/removing advocate any "bigoted ideologies".
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