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Old 06-07-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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Got to watch that video of Mark Dice before Youtube goes full McCarthyism, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoAstfUn2RE

Btw, one vlogger wonder when Youtube will delete these videos? I got the feeling then some people are more equal than the others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-LAI0AYn9E

The Youtube purge might have created the unintended consequence of raising the popularity of Bitchute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quyYz7LE0YI
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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I apologize for the bump but I saw that article of the Daily Caller where Youtube censorship had hit some other unintended consequeces. The demonotazing had hit SPLC content related. https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/07/y...rowder-google/

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Liberal activists are crying foul after YouTube’s demonetizing frenzy slammed the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization known for labeling conservative groups as hate groups.

A video SPLC published was among those nixed after YouTube announced plans Wednesday to remove videos and content that promote white supremacy. Journalist Max Blumenthal lashed out at the company after the video, which reports on Holocaust denialism, was pulled for violating the new policy.

“In @YouTube’s political purge, my video report for the @splcenter exposing Holocaust revisionist David Irving as a fascist and fraud historian was removed. This purge has already gone well beyond its stated aim. It is carpet bombing style censorship,” Blumenthal wrote on Twitter Friday.
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/st...13424439943169

As if more troubles for the SPLC wasn't enough besides Morris Dees firing and offshore accounts.
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Old 06-08-2019, 02:43 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Private companies can censor all they want.
But Bakers are forced to bake cakes for gay couples, and the NFL must allow players to kneel during the national anthem?
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:37 AM
 
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I did a quick google search, I dont see where Youtube has written to Crowder and told him his videos never breached TOS.

I think at best you mean crowder posted a video talking about TOS and claims he doesnt violate it, but thats just his opinion.

Youtube has point blank said using slurs, mocking or attacking people is against TOS, Crowders response to people who have pointed that out to him is to claim all of his jabs are "good hearted friendly ribbing", which is BS and obviously only works if both sides see it that way and they clearly didnt.
Nope, you are way off the mark, in fact what you state is the exact opposite of what Youtube have stated.

Youtube have categorically stated his videos don't breach TOS. This article contains the tweets from youtube confirming this.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/4/18...cement-verdict


However, then youtube said, don't worry about our TOS, we will just demonitise you because of your vibe.....
They say that even if you don't breach our TOS we will bow to loud activists and pretend there has been some "harm".

But hey, we will still leave the videos up to continue their harm to the community.

Youtube deserve all the ridicule they get.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/6/18...t-maza-crowder

"Even if a creator’s content doesn’t violate our community guidelines, we will take a look at the broader context and impact, and if their behavior is egregious and harms the broader community, we may take action. In the case of Crowder’s channel, a thorough review over the weekend found that individually, the flagged videos did not violate our Community Guidelines. However, in the subsequent days, we saw the widespread harm to the YouTube community resulting from the ongoing pattern of egregious behavior, took a deeper look, and made the decision to suspend monetization".
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:43 AM
 
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Good. It's about time. They should have started doing this 10 years ago. And no, it isn't censorship because it's a private corporation attending to its own best interests and its own business the way it needs to if it wants to stay in business and maintain a respectable and reliable reputation. It's their business and the content is their property, they can do whatever they want with it. They could take everything down and start afresh if they wanted to and there's nothing anyone else could object to or do about it.

That garbage they'll be removing isn't freedom of speech, it's abuse of speech, abuse of the privilege that the private corporation 'Youtube' granted the users and it's abuse of the private corporation itself. That makes the people posting that garbage three-time losers for abusing the system.

If the people that have been posting that kind of garbage want to keep on posting garbage then they can get a business license and create their own private business similar to the private corporation 'youtube' to do it on and then they can accept personal responsibility for the legal, judicial and financial consequences.

Sounds fair to me.


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You realise youtube aren't taking the videos down don't you? Still fair and right?
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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Default YouTube is deleting videos of Nazi history as part of its "hate" crackdown

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The site’s torrid week shows what a challenge moderation has become for big tech firms.

The news: YouTube announced new rules around hate speech on Wednesday that prohibit videos promoting Nazi ideology or denying the existence of the Holocaust or other well-documented violent events like the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Thousands of channels are expected to be shut down. But now multiple teachers are complaining that videos uploaded to educate people about Nazi history have been deleted, the Guardian reported.

The Nazi problem: Hate speech, and how to police it, isn’t a new issue for YouTube or other social platforms. But this shows just how fraught and complex the balance is, and highlights the risk of unintended consequences when policies and algorithms are tweaked. It’s also a reminder of just how much power big tech companies have as gatekeepers of the material we consume online.
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/6...ech-crackdown/

Consequences: unintended
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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I already posted a thread on this.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...promoting.html
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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The story I posted concerns a particular outcome of YouTube's actions. But if a mod wants to merge it with yours, that would be green!
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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Default NYT journo’s thread claiming the far-right used YouTube to radicalize followers goes SO wrong

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A journo for The New York Times found a guy who claims he was radicalized by the far-right on YouTube and he spent months writing about it. The timing of this article seems a tad bit convenient, with what happened earlier this week with Carlos Maza trying to shut Steven Crowder down.

He even wrote a thread about his article.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/0...goes-so-wrong/

And the censoring of wrong-think marches on.........
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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So the bottom line is that some of you are just fine with extremist views, hate speech and anti semitism in the media. Do you share these views or are you totally clueless about the kind of damage this does to a civilized society.

YouTube is private company and can determine what content is acceptable. Anyone in this country can stand on a street corner and spew out whatever nonsense they wish and accept the consequences. You can stand in a crowded theatre and yell fire but in the end you’ll be held accountable.
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