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Old 03-04-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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When I got to Italy I was pretty gun-shy of everyone. I had never traveled and was fairly awkward around strangers. What Henry1 said is true. Don't get me wrong - there are some crooks there - and here in the states too. However you can't go wrong getting socially friendly with your neighbors.

I too maintained contact with some Italian friends for over a decade after I left. E-mails and phone calls. I've never been able to return - just not in our budget yet (mortgage, cost of living, university costs, etc) but I hope to someday for visits. The friends there and I have drifted in different directions unfortunately and I have not worked hard enough to maintain the connections.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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I agree. There was alot of housing there when I was stationed there in the 90s. If you didn't live on base or if you had family there with you - you could also rent a villa and use DoD allowance money.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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Forest Beekkeeper is correct. I did law enforcement there too. I second everything he said. Make sure you have cover plates on your very Italian, cheap car. Keep your electronics to a minimum and whatever you buy - break the boxes down and deposit them on base on out of the neighborhood. Nothing says rob me like an expensive TV box sitting next to the curb for trash pickup outside your house. We could pull around behind our house and unload out of sight. A roomate once unloaded a "toy" (stereo) after dark. We had a driveway and off the street parking.

What Beekeeper said is true - leave all your valuables in the states. Don't take your jewelry or grandma's silver with you. Leave them with a trusted relative or a safety deposit box.

We got robbed early on our first summer and I lost $150 worth of gadgets. My roomate lost $1K worth of gadgets. He also got in trouble by claiming he lost $4K worth of gadgets. The gov't would reimburse us back then (early 90s) like insurance if you had receipts to prove what was stolen or the amount (like mine) was really low. Today with computers and MP3 players and all that stuff I know an American home would be quite full of gadgets easily stolen. You certainly don't want a laptop sitting around with your financial information in it.

After we were robbed our landlord installed steel shutters and an alarm system. We tripped it off a few times (couple times per year) so the neighborhood knew we had one. We also had a couple of wonderful little mutt dogs. The tough part was finding them homes when my tour was over b/c my parents would not keep them for me while I finished my enlistment. Tough not because I couldn't find a home for them - but tough b/c I was very attached to them and they were very attached to me.

The last year of my tour my roommates and I could leave the doors open and leave. Between the dogs and the alarm system, nobody ever bothered us again. Dunno if coming and going in fatigues and with a gun belt made an impression on anyone. Probably not. We all had Italian "cover plates" on our cars so we looked like locals. We also did not put $500 stereos in our cars with prominent speakers in the rear shelf. Cheap speakers and cheap stereos that sounded pretty decent. My car (early 70s Beetle) was noisy anyhow so it wasn't like I was getting a recording studio quality listening experience anyhow.

When the summer rolled around the crime (thefts) went up - we took to hiding our rent money and a few higher priced gadgets inside cabinets. Our bookshelves would fold out into guest beds in the family room and we could open them and put valuables inside. How they opened was not obvious so I think a thief would move on rather than examine these cabinets. To do it again I might add a lock to the back to make it very difficult to open. A friend back then took his laptop to work with him (back when laptops were expensive and very lacking in capability). That way it was never home alone. It was safe to leave things locked in your trunk on base, not off base.

Today I could imagine modifying a cheap dinner table so the top lifts off revealing storage inside it. Enclose the area under the top. Add locks to the top won't come off unless a flush mounted desk lock is unlocked - that is pointing straight down inside the skirt (apron?) of the table. You'd want to create ways to protect what was inside the table so if the table was knocked over the contents did not rattle around too much. Perhaps put that laptop inside the mattress of a sleeper couch and close it up? Dunno if that would put too much pressure on the computer.

Be aware of how visible you are with your "wealth". Conspicuous wealth is not a good thing. Keep those gadgets away from 1st floor windows. Pass on that expensive stereo for your car. Like I mentioned before, dispose of packing materials away from home. Get to know your neighbors - American and Italian. We worked crazy alternate shifts so somebody was often at home. Our American neighbors were home at night (they had young kids) even if we weren't. We had noisy dogs that hated strangers.

The theft issues in Naples back then weren't any worse than I imagine they would be in any large American city. Thieves want easy things to sell to finance their bad habits. I never felt physically endangered by the locals as I wandered around and I went some crazy places at crazy hours - both on the job and off the job. As a parent now I cringe at some of the hours I was keeping back then... We looked about as poor as our neighbors... Our neighbors were often pretty well off but b/c their homes looked iffy, the wealth was not obvious. I've looked at those places on Google Streets recently and noticed that many of the houses are now well painted and have sprouted air conditioners. The cars seem to have gotten nicer. The streets a little better cared for. It might be that the quality of life for everyone has improved a little so American lifestyle gadgets aren't as big a deal as they once were. When I lived there ('91-'94) my doctor friend bought their first microwave, their first VCR, and got cable TV. His car didn't have a/c in it despite being relatively new (Peugeot 406 TDI).

When you get there talk to your neighbors. Talk to your coworkers. Talk to American civilian base employees who have settled there. Have a talk with the military police shift leaders. Ask lots of questions about where they live, how they live, what their record for home theft has been like and what they can suggest.

Like several people on this forum have suggested - be sure to get friendly with your Italian neighbors. They can show you shops that might not be obvious as you drive through the neighborhood that you choose to live in. These shops can offer you real convenience over driving all the way back to the base to buy little stuff like hardware store stuff or food things.

Hope this was helpful info.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Also, keep a dozen bottles of water in your frig. And a few bottles in your car. If there is ever anyone on your street sweeping or gardening and they look hot, if your apartment complex has ground keepers, offer them cool water. Just take them out a cold bottle. If you pass a begger, give them a bottle of water.

Never ever hand anyone money. Just give them cool water. It has a huge effect on how your neighbors see you and treat you.

I have seen Americans actually refuse to give a worker water.

We also kept a bag of peppermint mint candies in our cars. Everytime on the Tang going through the tollbooths, hand over a mint. Everytime you go through a gate, hand over a mint. The Americans will generally refuse, but the LNs will take it; and every LN will remember you.

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Old 03-19-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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At Capodichino the Italian bakery guys would always stop and give us fresh bread at the guardshack. Yeah, we remembered them and their vehicle. We still had to check them but we knew they were "cool" (not a problem).

I'm going revise an earlier statement about thievery not being any worse than some American cities. I think I painted that one with a brush too wide. Thievery was a problem and like life in a big American city but not necessarily like life in ALL American communities of course. I know folks who don't lock their doors here still.

The water and mints idea is a wonderful one.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:09 AM
 
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I currently live in Naples Italy on base and I have a two month old daughter and I would not live off base with her. Living off base you have a lot of things to worry about. I find that the base is nice, clean, quiet, and the biggie for me is safety for my family. Best of luck with you new move.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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Hi, My husband (active duty Navy) and I have just moved to Naples and are seeking recommendations for realtors. We've been advised by friends to go out with several different realtors since housing is based on who you know rather than a master list everyone uses. We're looking for someone who specializes in Pozzuoli and surrounds.

Please let me know if you had a great experience and send me a message with the contact info. If anyone has the contact info for the realtor mentioned in previous posts, Britta Inning, I would greatly appreciate her contact info as well.

It's been awhile since we lived in the Naples area [early 1980's], but we had a nice house that we were renting. We felt rather safe there too. There were two homes that were side by side - both gated. I believe the landlord was going to have those homes for his children when they get married. Not sure if they are still available for rent. The house had a big garage area. Steps up to main house and second floor with 2-3 bedrooms and big bathroom. Area: Castel Volturno. It was a dream house! We were even able to walk to the base housing to do our laundry. If that helps to give you an idea of distance. Our landlords, had their house and also ran a butcher/mini market. Across the street, I'm not sure if it was a cafe bar/hotel (?), but one could get a decent cappuccino there. Beyond our homes, there was another area that I know rented out homes because a couple military families had lived there and we visited with them on a few occasions. Really enjoyed our visit and tour rotation there.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:33 AM
 
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Hi, I live in Ischia and am an american. I would like to know americans that are here in Naples.
Realy miss the US and would be nice to feel closer.. so if you want. contact me at [email]h.internazionale@libero.it[/email]. I'm Philip
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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We are considering orders to Naples. How hard is it to get housing on base? It is only the 2 of us and our cats, we don't have kids.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Default Naples or Sigonella??

My husband is up for orders and we would like to go to Italy, so i would like to hear the pros and cons of each place.

We have no kids that will be coming with us and want to live on base.

Also if you are and MC what is shore duty like in either place?

Thanks for your input
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