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Old 10-25-2013, 10:03 AM
 
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Sigh, I'm talking about INDIVIDUALS collecting welfare/SNAP benefits swindling or scamming the system.


It's okay. You don't have to. I was just making a point about something. It's very, very, very hard to scam the system in NYC. The background check is super intense.

The woman in this story got away with it, because they know how to work the loopholes in the system. What those are, we'll never know, but I'm sure she had to have someone on the INSIDE of HRA helping her.
Why don't you list out all the rules for the Google search, like must be in NYC, must match the dollar amount exactly of the white European immigrant who just got caught, must be black or hispanic and you must be able to prove it with a photo, must be collecting welfare and not committing some other type of related fraud, etc. and I will re-do the 5 second Google search and get back to you.

Just for good measure, here's a hispanic woman in a Brooklyn housing project who stole $352,000. The article calls it a "welfare scam" and mentions "phony benefits." Does this suit all your requirements or am I missing something?

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Elizabeth Monserrate, 29, who lives in a Brooklyn housing project in Williamsburg, was the top rip-off artist among the recipients, pocketing 208 payments that added up to $352,000, prosecutors said
Read more: LIVING WELL OFF WELFARE 98 CHARGED IN 2.2M SCAM - NY Daily News
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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This is where I'm sensing the defensiveness. If you know you'd easily call out this lady like the rest, why do you feel the need to defense yourself? The first replies were about those who only target black/Latino welfare abusers and ignore the rest.
I've answered this already. You're purely speculating that nobody would have bad things to say about welfare scammers who have white skin. That's all that I was doing with my initial post. Calling you out on that. Not really sure how you're not comprehending this.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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HRA employees I thought that is what you were referring to in the post I'm responding to. If not, it is just additional info.
No, you're right. I just wanted to make sure you meant the employees.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Why don't you list out all the rules for the Google search, like must be in NYC, must match the dollar amount exactly of the white European immigrant who just got caught, must be black or hispanic and you must be able to prove it with a photo, must be collecting welfare and not committing some other type of related fraud, etc. and I will re-do the 5 second Google search and get back to you.

Just for good measure, here's a hispanic woman in a Brooklyn housing project who stole $352,000. The article calls it a "welfare scam" and mentions "phony benefits." Does this suit all your requirements or am I missing something?



Read more: LIVING WELL OFF WELFARE 98 CHARGED IN 2.2M SCAM - NY Daily News
This article is from 1995.

Regardless, none of this could have went down without help from someone working INSIDE HRA:

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Manhattan prosecutors yesterday charged three Human Resources Administration workers and 95 welfare recipients with a computer scheme to bilk $2.

2 million in phony benefits over the last three years. "The computer system was ineptly designed" with a "giant hole through which the defendants could remove millions of dollars," said Howard Wilson, commissioner of the city Department of Investigation.
They even said the loophole to get away with this was closed.


I remember reading an article online in one of the city union papers of several HRA workers getting arrested for scamming about 5 years ago. I wish I could find it now, but it's one of those websites that you find "accidentally" while searching for something else.

All I'm saying is that the stereotype "Welfare Queen" that Ronald Reagan perpetuated never existed. It was proven he LIED about her. The only people scamming INDIVIDUALLY on such high magnitudes have been WHITE.



Read more: LIVING WELL OFF WELFARE 98 CHARGED IN 2.2M SCAM - NY Daily News
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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Interesting. Kulaks in Russia were the higher class of serfs, the ones who worked hard and owned some property and were therefore targeted and liquidated in the first generation (late '20s) of Soviet Russia.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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All I'm saying is that the stereotype "Welfare Queen" that Ronald Reagan perpetuated never existed. It was proven he LIED about her. The only people scamming INDIVIDUALLY on such high magnitudes have been WHITE.
Well, I'm out of time to Google stupid nonsense. I am sure you can prove that the ONLY PEOPLE doing this are white. How could you possible know this? It's just something you are guessing, with no ability to prove.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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I've answered this already. You're purely speculating that nobody would have bad things to say about welfare scammers who have white skin. That's all that I was doing with my initial post. Calling you out on that. Not really sure how you're not comprehending this.
That's not speculation when people really are quick to call out black/Latino yet conveniently forget white counterparts who do the same thing. You didn't call me out on anything. You were trying to win intellectual points by being disingenuous.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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Well, I'm out of time to Google stupid nonsense. I am sure you can prove that the ONLY PEOPLE doing this are white. How could you possible know this? It's just something you are guessing, with no ability to prove.
Yes, you're right.


Honestly, I'll let you and everyone else have it and say that yes, 99% of the welfare cheats and fraudsters not just in NYC (but in the entire country) are black and hispanic. The blacks are of southern american ancestry not the "good" blacks like the africans and caribbeans. They would NEVER step foot in a welfare office. They're too "hard working" for that. The one white person reported in this story is really an aberration.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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That's not speculation when people really are quick to call out black/Latino yet conveniently forget white counterparts who do the same thing. You didn't call me out on anything. You were trying to win intellectual points by being disingenuous.
No they don't. *Said in my female Uncle Ruckusina voice*

Whites very, very, very RARELY commit welfare fraud in the United States. Only a super small minority (maybe a coupla 100) are on any type of assistance. Even the Welfare offices in the super whitest states such as Montana, Iowa, Idaho, Maine, etc., is 90% full of black AMERICANS (of southern ancestry) and hispanics (all types).
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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That's not speculation when people really are quick to call out black/Latino yet conveniently forget white counterparts who do the same thing. You didn't call me out on anything. You were trying to win intellectual points by being disingenuous.
Buddy...when do you see people posting negative racial posts at blacks and latinos? I'll answer that for you. In threads whère crimes and the such involve blacks and latinos. Would it offend you less if people posted "but but, white people do stuff too!!"? That's not how it works. When the Bernie Madoff thing was going down, did you come on here and say "man that's horrible....but guys you realize black people have defrauded people right? I'm just sayin..." ? I seriously f'n doubt that. My posts from earlier stand. Different threads will have different topics of discussion with different hatred being thrown around.

FFS man, this is kindergarten level stuff...
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