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Does anyone know what the grand jury was given as options for an indictment? It would seem to me that the office of the Staten Island DA should be forthcoming with this information. If they're going to release some information, release this information.
This thug had no right to resist arrest , he would of been handcuffed taken to the precinct released on a summons and been back on the street in an hour to go commit more crimes somewhere else. These thugs are out of control and we have to start holding them accountable. With this guys prior criminal record he should have been locked up a long time ago.
In NY, unlike MO, no one involved in a GJ proceeding can give out any information to anyone other than the decision, unless approved by a judge.
That's correct. But selective information has been approved for release in this case. And since that is so, why not release the options that the grand jury was presented with (by the DA) for indictment? To me, that's relevant information.
A law that needs to be repealed as there is no way it is actually uniformly enforceable. People buy loose cigarettes off each other all the time. The high taxes on cigarettes created a market for loose cigarettes, one that won't go away.
Other result is selling untaxed or less taxed cigarettes. Buying cigarettes from Indian reservations or out of state from cheaper states (Massachusetts is a lot cheaper, New Hampshire is cheaper still). Of course, cigarettes are stamped to show they've paid the state tax, but some will try to get around it. Anyone who thinks that violating tobacco rules is limited to hood types is an idiot. Hood types are just worse at hiding their tax evasion, and more likely to do things on the street.
My dad used to have a cigarette vending machine business, servicing them in bars and clubs. Years ago, I suggested that he try a machine that sells only one cigarette at a very high markup... for desperate drunk people. Didn't know that was illegal. He had a few interesting stories from servicing Italian "social clubs". They told him, "if anyone ever bothers you, let us know..."
A law that needs to be repealed as there is no way it is actually uniformly enforceable. People buy loose cigarettes off each other all the time. The high taxes on cigarettes created a market for loose cigarettes, one that won't go away.
Just because something is done all the time doesnt make it right. Lets be honest. What happened here was there was pressure from store owners for the police to clean up that block from people selling loose cigs. They went after the low hanging fruit in Eric Garner, a guy that was known for selling loose cigs. I dont agree with how they man-handled Eric Garner, but to say he was just minding his buisness is naive at best.
He was arressted 31 times, he knew how the game works.Stop with the moral equivalance that just because a law might be unjust people have the right to break it. Once they said they were going to arrest him, it wasnt a negotiation. Perhaps he was having a bad day and was fed up with getting harrassed by police. Thats understandable, but there was a reason why he was being harrassed. The police didnt just pick someone at random. Bottom line, if he submitted to the arrest, he would of been out in a few hours or the next day. Its not like arrest # 32 would of blocked his future job prospects. But in todays world, because he was a black man and the cops were white, this is another example of racism.
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