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Old 11-24-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Properly
My thought exactly.

 
Old 11-24-2015, 07:55 AM
 
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Ummm...."Proper" I believe can be used as both an adjective or adverb, thus his title is correct.
The OP is using it as an adverb here to modify the verb "speak." When the word is used as an adverb, "-ly" is added to the end.
 
Old 11-24-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Which of the two countries has more people that speak English at home as their primary language?

So you are saying that the dialect that evolved from the mother tongue is more correct than the mother tongue itself? I didn't know that language was a democracy. American English made the change, not British English.

Besides, cherry picking the native speaker statistics to prove your point really doesn't change the fact that the US has about only 1/3 of all native and non-native English speakers in the world. Nearly all of the non-native speakers speak dialects based on British English and use British spelling.
 
Old 11-24-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Gays are so superficial and shallow.
Just do you. Don't worry about what your friend says. Maybe re-evaluate why he is ur friend? And dump his @ss as a friend. Who nmeeds him?

You need to meet and hang out with more sophosticated, worldly, educated people. Not these basic clowns u curently deal with.
Such as yourself, perhaps?
 
Old 11-24-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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You need to ditch that friend, he sounds like an ass. Anyway, I get it from both sides as well. I speak properly MOST of the time (though being from the south, I can't help but use slang and ebonics at times ) and I have one aunt who gets so tickled when she hears me talk and even whites in school would tell me I was the whitest black person they ever knew. I like what the hell? I went to a predominantly black school for most of my elementary years (though the neighborhood was racially mixed black and white). Once we moved further south of town, I went to predominantly white schools and I know what it was like to be the token black guy. Black people thought I was too white or stuck up while whites thought I was an oreo and at times laughed if I portrayed any black traits. That said, your situation is what gets me annoyed when people compare homophobia to racism because they are not the same and in the LGBT community racism seems to be pretty prevalent.
 
Old 11-24-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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Accepted by whom?

Your coworkers? Yes you would be.


Clients or Customers where you work? Yes you would be.

Your peers? I dont know depends on the crowd.

It is a shame certain groups are proud of speaking unintelligent or lazy. If you want to succeed in life you really need to speak proper english unless it is your second language.

Certain groups also are proud to NOT be successful. These kids may want to strive to do better but do not want to be made fun of.


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Black people are often times critcized as being 'ghetto', but if you are black and you speak proper, people make fun of you by calling you an oreo and saying that you want to be white. Most blacks really don't like you and most whites will hang out with you but they will constantly make sarcastic comments about how you are trying to be white.You really can't win. I am not comfortable around either race because of stuff like this.

This is one reason why I dislike 90% of people. People always expect you to fit every black stereotype or they try to say you really aren't "black".

I have a friend who always gives me a hard time about a lot of stupid stuff, like going to too many festivals, dating the wrong people, or because I don't do random hookups (he admits that he has trouble controlling himself and he can't help but sleep around even though he is in a relationship. he is jealous of me). But the thing he gives me the hardest time about is how he claims that I act white.

Over the years (we just started talking again in december 2014 after having a fall out a few years prior where we stopped speaking) he will always make some kind of random and somewhat sarcastic comment about me acting white. I have talked about how it bothers me when people say stuff like that. There are a few mutual friends of ours who are black and speak proper and he always comments on how they act white because they speak proper. Then last week when we were on the phone he said, "I usually can tell if I am talking to a black person on the phone by the way they sound, except if I am talking to you." So basically the last part of that statement was him taking a shot at me by saying I sound white. He has said other stuff like "you sound like a country white boy" or "that white dude is blacker than you and Greg combined" (greg is a mutual black friend of ours). Plus my friend makes racist generalizations about blacks in front of me. The last time he came to visit me, he wanted to go to waffle house but he told me "I won't go in the waffle house by where you live because too many black people go in there and black people are loud and I don't wanna get shot" ( i live in a nice, mostly black area).

He also is in a relationship with a black guy and only dates black guys (even though he is attracted to white guys as well). Most of the black guys he dates act ghetto so he expects every black guy to be like that. He grew up and still lives in a really small town in south alabama, so I try to cut him some slack because I know people in small southern towns tend to be closed-minded.

I am only attracted to whites, but I am becoming really leery of dating them. Most white people I have dated have said racist comments to me and put me down because I supposedly act white. I am tired of everybody associating being black with being ghetto. We are not all the same.

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Old 11-24-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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In the so-called "black community" (which normally refers to low-income urban areas) there seems to have recently developed a profound cultural polarization: A crab bucket mentality so extreme that it can reach out to middle-class black youth if their parents aren't careful. It's transmitted out of the low-income urban areas by means of the media, and middle-class parents of black youth have to be careful to teach their children, "This is your reality, not that."
 
Old 11-24-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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I have a friend who always gives me a hard time about a lot of stupid stuff, like going to too many festivals, dating the wrong people, or because I don't do random hookups (he admits that he has trouble controlling himself and he can't help but sleep around even though he is in a relationship. he is jealous of me). But the thing he gives me the hardest time about is how he claims that I act white.
PS regardless of anyone's color, people like this ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.


Friends are supportive in your choices even if they do not agree with them. Friends do not judge you.

Just because you grew up with these people does not mean they have your best interest at heart.

Being successful is not a bad thing. Learning to better yourself is not a negative.

It is heartbreaking to see some kids with great potential get caught in peer pressure but i also have been guilty of this.
 
Old 11-25-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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so leave these people behind, and let them wallow at how "the man" keeps them down.
 
Old 11-25-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: South Hampton Roads
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Originally Posted by ninersfan82 View Post
Black people are often times critcized as being 'ghetto', but if you are black and you speak proper, people make fun of you by calling you an oreo and saying that you want to be white. Most blacks really don't like you and most whites will hang out with you but they will constantly make sarcastic comments about how you are trying to be white.You really can't win. I am not comfortable around either race because of stuff like this.

This is one reason why I dislike 90% of people. People always expect you to fit every black stereotype or they try to say you really aren't "black".

I have a friend who always gives me a hard time about a lot of stupid stuff, like going to too many festivals, dating the wrong people, or because I don't do random hookups (he admits that he has trouble controlling himself and he can't help but sleep around even though he is in a relationship. he is jealous of me). But the thing he gives me the hardest time about is how he claims that I act white.

Over the years (we just started talking again in december 2014 after having a fall out a few years prior where we stopped speaking) he will always make some kind of random and somewhat sarcastic comment about me acting white. I have talked about how it bothers me when people say stuff like that. There are a few mutual friends of ours who are black and speak proper and he always comments on how they act white because they speak proper. Then last week when we were on the phone he said, "I usually can tell if I am talking to a black person on the phone by the way they sound, except if I am talking to you." So basically the last part of that statement was him taking a shot at me by saying I sound white. He has said other stuff like "you sound like a country white boy" or "that white dude is blacker than you and Greg combined" (greg is a mutual black friend of ours). Plus my friend makes racist generalizations about blacks in front of me. The last time he came to visit me, he wanted to go to waffle house but he told me "I won't go in the waffle house by where you live because too many black people go in there and black people are loud and I don't wanna get shot" ( i live in a nice, mostly black area).

He also is in a relationship with a black guy and only dates black guys (even though he is attracted to white guys as well). Most of the black guys he dates act ghetto so he expects every black guy to be like that. He grew up and still lives in a really small town in south alabama, so I try to cut him some slack because I know people in small southern towns tend to be closed-minded.

I am only attracted to whites, but I am becoming really leery of dating them. Most white people I have dated have said racist comments to me and put me down because I supposedly act white. I am tired of everybody associating being black with being ghetto. We are not all the same.

Where do you live? lol

I ask because having moved around the country a bit in the last 20 years or so, I've noticed that people's expectations and perceptions can be quite different depending on what they are used to.

If you lived in California, Massachusetts, Washington State, Washington DC, New Hampshire (there are a few others, but I just cannot think of them off the top of my head), you would most likely not get that kind of response from most of the Black or White people around you.

I've heard that response personally in Texas, Virginia, parts of Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas (lol). One man is his mid 40s where I used to work (Norfolk, VA UPS Distribution office) told me that "I talked good" and that I sounded "White". I tried not to give him the crazy look, but it concerned me that he would say something like that.

I have never had anyone say that to me in the first set of states I mentioned. I am not saying that it doesn't happen, but I doubt highly it happens often.

I think you need to consider moving because that type of perception (coming from White or Black people) can get very old and often says more about them and what they are used to than it does about you.
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