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Old 06-16-2008, 11:02 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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What's unfair here is that my father is no self-made-man like WB but was a daddy's son and inherited my grandfather's relative "wealth" without needing to budge a finger - on the other hand I had to work hard to find a job without help. Talk of "immanent justice"...
Life isn't fair. And maybe your dad would have turned out to be a better human being had he not had that inheritance. Too many times have I seem young people crippled mentally as adults because of expecting family money to come their way. Make your own money and stop thinking of what could have been yours. There are plenty of self made millionaires around. And money definitely doesn't buy happiness. If anything, people that have and make more money tend to overspend and have more stuff and bills, but less personal happiness.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Pocono Mts.
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Life isn't fair. And maybe your dad would have turned out to be a better human being had he not had that inheritance. Too many times have I seem young people crippled mentally as adults because of expecting family money to come their way. Make your own money and stop thinking of what could have been yours. There are plenty of self made millionaires around. And money definitely doesn't buy happiness. If anything, people that have and make more money tend to overspend and have more stuff and bills, but less personal happiness.
great post, miu...

OP....Life sucks...get a helmet
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:34 AM
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Location: Colorado
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OP....Life sucks...get a helmet
Wow, you're so kind and compassionate.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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great post, miu...

OP....Life sucks...get a helmet
SOMETIMES life can suck, many times life can be SWEET, but it is rarely "fair". Once you learn this, and how to take the bad with the good, things get a lot easier
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:46 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Actually life really isn't that bad, it's just doesn't turn out to be the fairy tale life that we'd like it to be. And pigeonhole's life sounds fine to me. Inheriting his dad's money would be more like whipped cream on top of an ice cream sundae. What wouldn't be fair is if he had some awful medical condition that was painful or causing his life to be cut short. The average human living in the US today is really pretty darn lucky compared to most of the humans that have ever been born in history...

So stop whining and carpe diem!
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:00 PM
 
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Thank you for your wise counsels, miu; actually I have an advantage over my father : I'm definitly less lazy than he is, and that's priceless!
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Nashville,Tn
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Default You guys are a little off topic.

OP here, this thread has gone off topic.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I don't know how you guys feel about it but I feel when parents lie to their children, its a HUGE betrayal and not something easily forgotten.

If you can't trust your parents to be honest with you then who can you trust?

I understand what Lindsey is saying here, but on the other side, you can`t hold a grudge, or not forgive... for anyone, for that matter, for their behaviour.It hurts more...alot more, coming from a parent, but still....there comes a time in a person`s life, that they need to realize, that until you can forgive that person, it will just sit and fester..become an ugly sin, and it can never really go away.
Until I forgave my step dad for the ugly things that he has done, I was cold, distant, and full of hatred. I HAD to do something...so I forgave him, forgot about it, and realized that HE is the one who is going to have to pay for what he has done, its not me, or my Mom.
How can a person really move on, and get past the betrayal, if they are not willing to be the bigger person, and stand up and face it?
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: VA
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OP here, this thread has gone off topic.
I haven't read through the entire thread but I have read your first two posts in the thread. Have you found any resolve for the situation?
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:55 PM
 
Location: When things get hot they expand. Im not fat. Im hot.
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I know hate is a strong word to use when describing how you feel about people, but I hate my father. I hate him for many reasons. Even the site of his face makes me feel angry all over. Sometimes I want to yell and curse at him at the top of my lungs. I try to keep my cool, but he just makes me so angry. The first reason I think I hate my father is because when I was growing up, he was hardly around. You see, when he met my mother they were coworkers. They began seeing each other outside of work and eventually had me. The only thing that was wrong with that is my father was married to a woman that was not my mother. This means that he cheated on his wife with my mother and had me. To me, that is just something that is inexcusable. I am glad that I can be here on earth, but think that the way that I was conceived was wrong. This is why he was hardly around when I was growing up, because he had a wife to go home to at night instead of a son and mother. He came around every so often and played games with me, bought gifts and so on, but for some reason we never went anywhere together in public, something I did not realize until many years later. I loved him at the time, and received much joy from his visits. When I was about 11 or 12, he moved in with me and my mother permanently. I was thrilled. You see, this whole time I had not known that he had a wife whom he was now divorcing. I always thought that he lived in an apartment with a roomate or something because that is what my mother always told me when I asked her. Another thing I did not know was that he was even my father. I was always told that my father was one of my mother's previous boyfreinds, but that was a lie too. My mother and father had to make up that story because my dad was a married man and no one could know about me. It was as if I was a secret child that no one could know about. As a matter of fact, I guess I was a secret child no one could know about. Anyways, after about a year after my father had moved in with me and my mother, he told me a secret. He told me that he was my actual father all this time. I did not believe this story at first, but once I did, I began to question my life as a whole. I thought that I had been lied to the whole time. I wanted to know if everything about me was a lie. The day he told me he was my father was my first day of sixth grade I think, which meant that I had to spend that whole first day thinking about my entire life, wondering if it was all a lie. Moving on, a few months later my mother told me that my father used to be married, which I took quite well, because it was just like putting another piece in conjunction with the rest of an endless puzzle. At this time, my father was in the process of divorcing his ex-wife, which was something that I did not fully understand at the time. A few years later after my father's divorce, my mom and dad bought a home. I never really liked that house that much and still don't till this day. I think the reason why I never liked it that much was that i had to go through so much hell there. My mother would fuss at my father a lot because he lied quite a bit and pretty soon she did not trust him at all. After a year or two of living in that house, the biggest lie of them all came into reality. You see, one of my father's ex-girlfreinds would call our house day and show up at our house randomly just to try to pick a nerve with my parents. She would never leave us alone no matter how many times we would call the police. She would follow my mom to work, make threats, and she even called my parents jobs while they were at work. She would call my dad's job so much that he almost got fired, something that my mom and I would not find out until nine months later. You see, since my father was about to get fired from his job, he desperately went to his ex-girlfreind and asked what he could do to make her stop calling and harrasing him at work. Apparently that thing was to sleep with her. That was what she wanted all along. She actually wanted him all along, but the only way that she would stop calling him on the job would be if he slept with her, which he did. She stopped harassing him at work, but did not stop harrasing us at home. She began to make up stories that she was pregnant, which she had done many times before, so we just ignored it since her motive was to make my mother leave my father. Soon enough, we found out that her lies were reality. I remember the day when my father had to go to court. He had to go to court that day because he had to find out how much he would pay each week for child support. This was the most devastating thing that ever happened in my life. My father had cheated on my mother with his ex-girlfreind to keep his job. I would have just lost my job rather than cheat on someone I love. My father would always lie to my mother about things, such as where he was going when he left the house, or why he would always take his phone calls privately in another room, or why we never went anywhere as a family, but this was something that basically tore our familiy apart. The trust in our household was gone, the love was gone, and there was nothing but emptiness. We still loved each other but not as much as we used to. This was how my house was for the rest of the years I lived there.
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When I was eighteen getting ready to go to college my mother was very supportive of my decisions. My father was not. You see, I wanted to go to dental school to become a dentist, but my father mocked me and told me that dental school was too expensive and tried to steer me to another career. My mother told me that if being a dentist was my dream, I should pursue it, which I did. To this day, my father still does not encourage my career as a dentist and still mocks me for my career choices. He has this belief that dentist and doctors get sued so much that they spend more time in court than they do in hospitals and dental offices, which is just plain idiotic. I guess the whole point of this post it to ask the question; is it wrong to dislike my father for all the things he has put me through, or should I still find a way to love h'im despite of all the things I have gone through? I know the answer to this question may seem obvious to some of you, but I just can't figure this out. It is something I have struggled with for years, and I must figure out what I should do. I would like to love my father, but I just can't bring myself to do so.
Life s not fair. There are lots of road blocks and detours that can block our way.. Some of us weep and wail and beat our heads against the detour sign, We throw ourselves in the dirt and fall into a heap sobbing "why me. And some of us have learned go around. See you on the other side.

He is what he is. He cheated on his wife and his mistress. And I do believe he had to be incouraging this girl friend or she wouldnt have hung on so tenaciously. But this is the person your Mother has chosen. And It doesnt sound like shes going to toss him on his ear anytime soon. Personally I would not have chosen him but she did,.

So now you have to decide just how far do you want to let him into your life. Just as there are different levels of friendship. There can be different levels of relatives. Maybe you two are destined to be aquaintences. If you dont want to love and trust him then dont. Civil works just fine with aquaintences.
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