Devon Energy building new skyscraper downtown! (Tulsa: apartment complex, loft, neighborhoods)

[Synopsis]

The following map indicates that most of the growth in OkC is developing outside the city core. I'm sure this is also happening in Tulsa as well..

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[Synopsis]

Below is a map of the density of Tulsa. The darker green means more density. It's apparently obvious that the bulk of Tulsa's population lives within the city of Tulsa proper, which has much smaller city limits than OkC.



Face it, OkC is spread out and has been for some time. I realize that the city is turning things around, but the sheer mass of OkC in its land area means that it will take it some time to be a truly urbanized area.

Similarly, Tulsa has a large way to go as well, but apparently not quite so far as OkC.

[okcpulse]

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[okcpulse]

Originally Posted by Synopsis

Below is a map of the density of Tulsa. The darker green means more density. It's apparently obvious that the bulk of Tulsa's population lives within the city of Tulsa proper, which has much smaller city limits than OkC.



Face it, OkC is spread out and has been for some time. I realize that the city is turning things around, but the sheer mass of OkC in its land area means that it will take it some time to be a truly urbanized area.

Similarly, Tulsa has a large way to go as well, but apparently not quite so far as OkC.

Yes, but 510,000 out of 547,000 people live within Oklahoma City proper. I just don't see that as spread out. Of course, urbanized geography will change with more development.

Now, if OKC has 547,000 with 400 square miles of urbanized area, now THAT would be spread out.

[TulsaArtist]

Not all of Tulsa is developed either. The urbanized land area is smaller than the cities land area. While doing the maps for the new comprehensive plan, some people were considering having development in the far east section of Tulsa. Everyone else was like "NO way, you would have to build roads, infrastructure, etc. keep infilling the areas that already have infrastructure, is more efficient and cost effective". And too, if you go just NE of downtown Tulsa you have zipcodes with truly almost no people living in them, and thats fine imo. Would rather Tulsa keep getting denser and not spreading out. Was working at a clients house near 81st and Mingo. Didnt realize there were so many new, large, apartment complexes going in there. I like seeing the areas around the mall continue to infill and densify. Several new hotels are going in the area as well. I am actually kind of amazed at the amount of growth still going on in, and immediately around, Tulsa. Seems like there is more stuff going on now than before the recession hit lol.

[fciman]

What irks me are the people that Tulsa not to prosper in any way to make there city look good I guess. If the citizens and leaders of both cities would but away the bad blood and WORK TOGETHER on certain projects mountains could be moved.The Tulsa page says the Tulsa Bartelsville area population is 955,000, still not as much as OKC, but not a small rural area by any standards. Your maps program was godsent to okc and it looks 100% better. To bad noone from okc can praise Tulsa about anything...On another note I dont know if have a aquarium in okc, but if not, a Saturday trip to
Tulsa well actually Jenks is beautiful. I mean I am suprised Tulsa could build something so beautiful. I have seen other aquariums in some larger cities and I think the Oklahoma aquarium is right up there first class. Its something ALL of Oklahoma could and would enjoy.

[okcpulse]

Originally Posted by fciman

What irks me are the people that Tulsa not to prosper in any way to make there city look good I guess. If the citizens and leaders of both cities would but away the bad blood and WORK TOGETHER on certain projects mountains could be moved.

OKC and Tulsa's Chambers of Commerce work together on a lot of pro-business proposals.

Originally Posted by fciman

To bad noone from okc can praise Tulsa about anything....

Not true. I praised Tulsa for moving forward on their arena and convention center projects. It was encouraging to see the voters pass Vision 2025. But, when I hear Tulsans run OKC down time and time again... not all Tulsans do, but many do... it's a real turnoff and it's hard to praise someone who constantly runs you down.

Originally Posted by fciman

On another note I dont know if have a aquarium in okc, but if not, a Saturday trip to
Tulsa well actually Jenks is beautiful. I mean I am suprised Tulsa could build something so beautiful. I have seen other aquariums in some larger cities and I think the Oklahoma aquarium is right up there first class. Its something ALL of Oklahoma could and would enjoy.

That aquarium is flippin awesome. I can't wait to go when I hit OKC and Tulsa this summer. I always visit both cities when in Oklahoma..

[okcpulse]

Originally Posted by TulsaArtist

Not all of Tulsa is developed either. The urbanized land area is smaller than the cities land area. While doing the maps for the new comprehensive plan, some people were considering having development in the far east section of Tulsa. Everyone else was like "NO way, you would have to build roads, infrastructure, etc. keep infilling the areas that already have infrastructure, is more efficient and cost effective". And too, if you go just NE of downtown Tulsa you have zipcodes with truly almost no people living in them, and thats fine imo. Would rather Tulsa keep getting denser and not spreading out. Was working at a clients house near 81st and Mingo. Didnt realize there were so many new, large, apartment complexes going in there. I like seeing the areas around the mall continue to infill and densify. Several new hotels are going in the area as well. I am actually kind of amazed at the amount of growth still going on in, and immediately around, Tulsa. Seems like there is more stuff going on now than before the recession hit lol.

Right, but when is Tulsa going to pass the 400,000 mark? It's been in the 300,000 range since 1970. Nonetheless, south Tulsa is very nice.

In OKC, I can't wait for Core To Shore to take off, and I miss the Lake Hefner region of OKC. I truly do.

[okcpulse]

Originally Posted by Synopsis

Below is a map of the density of Tulsa. The darker green means more density. It's apparently obvious that the bulk of Tulsa's population lives within the city of Tulsa proper, which has much smaller city limits than OkC.



Face it, OkC is spread out and has been for some time. I realize that the city is turning things around, but the sheer mass of OkC in its land area means that it will take it some time to be a truly urbanized area.

Similarly, Tulsa has a large way to go as well, but apparently not quite so far as OkC.

Okay, I found it.

http://www.dataplace.org/map/index.h...22&zoomlevel=6

Judging by OKC's map, it is nearly just as dense. There is more land on which the city can built, but the actual urban density is barely different from Tulsa.

BTW, I can't post images.

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by okcpulse

Okay, I found it.

DataPlace: Map of Population density (people per square mile) in 2000 in Oklahoma City, OK

Judging by OKC's map, it is nearly just as dense. There is more land on which the city can built, but the actual urban density is barely different from Tulsa.

BTW, I can't post images.

Thanks okcpulse. Great map! BTW, I was in error above when I posted the map about growth in OkC. Comparing growth to density is like comparing apples to oranges. My apologies and I believe that you and HT are correct.