[johnspecial]

Originally Posted by okie1962

have you even seen the "King of the Hill" episode where they decided to join one of these huge mega churches? It's very funny!

People like you have been saying that for years....yet they continue to build more Churches in Oklahoma. Twenty seven new Churches were built in OKC last year.

It's also interesting how you proclaim a decline in Church goers as a positive thing. Almost like you see that as a victory. I wondered where they three radical liberals in Oklahoma hung out. Now I see it's right here on this forum.

[okie1962]

Originally Posted by johnspecial

People like you have been saying that for years....yet they continue to build more Churches in Oklahoma. Twenty seven new Churches were built in OKC last year.

It's also interesting how you proclaim a decline in Church goers as a positive thing. Almost like you see that as a victory. I wondered where they three radical liberals in Oklahoma hung out. Now I see it's right here on this forum.

John, folks like you who keep using their religion as a weapon, are the same folks who are driving people from God.

[okie1962]

Originally Posted by johnspecial

People like you have been saying that for years....yet they continue to build more Churches in Oklahoma. Twenty seven new Churches were built in OKC last year.

It's also interesting how you proclaim a decline in Church goers as a positive thing. Almost like you see that as a victory. I wondered where they three radical liberals in Oklahoma hung out. Now I see it's right here on this forum.

The 2010 census and Oklahoma Baptists: some lessons :: Baptist Messenger of Oklahoma

[johnspecial]

Originally Posted by okie1962

The 2010 census and Oklahoma Baptists: some lessons :: Baptist Messenger of Oklahoma

You'll be dead and gone before there is any secular liberal utopia in Oklahoma. Let go of your fear of God

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by johnspecial

You'll be dead and gone before there is any secular liberal utopia in Oklahoma. Let go of your fear of God

There is a certain irony (considering your love for the stars and bars) that essentially the ONLY reason there is a "Southern" Baptist denomination is that the Baptists in the south were staunch defenders of slavery while their northern counterparts were staunchly against slavery.

On January 27, 1861, before a standing room only audience Ebenezer W. Warren, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Macon, Georgia, delivered a sermon entitled “Scriptural Vindication of Slavery,” here partially quoted:

“Slavery forms a vital element of the Divine Revelation to man. Its institution, regulation, and perpetuity, constitute a part of many of the books of the Bible …. The public mind needs enlightening from the sacred teachings of inspiration on this subject …. We of the South have been passive, hoping the storm would subside …. Our passiveness has been our sin. We have not come to the vindication of God and of truth, as duty demanded …. it is necessary for ministers of the gospel … to teach slavery from the pulpit, as it was taught by the holy men of old, who spake as moved by the holy Spirit …. Both Christianity and Slavery are from heaven; both are blessings to humanity; both are to be perpetuated to the end of time …. Because Slavery is right; and because the condition of the slaves affords them all those privileges which would prove substantial blessings to them; and, too, because their Maker has decreed their bondage, and has given them, as a race, capacities and aspirations suited alone to this condition of life ….”

[sheena12]

Originally Posted by okie1962

have you even seen the "King of the Hill" episode where they decided to join one of these huge mega churches? It's very funny!

I loved that episode! Really funny!

My view of Oklahoma might be skewed because everyone I know who was from there was some type of a Pentecostal and either went to ORU or Southwestern Bible College or another Pentecostal type university.

It sure must be the center of the Bible belt! Never saw so many churches as I did there. Lots of Baptists there too.

Mostly everyone was quite friendly, though. Even when they found out I was from New York! Nice people.

[debzkidz]

Originally Posted by sheena12

I loved that episode! Really funny!

My view of Oklahoma might be skewed because everyone I know who was from there was some type of a Pentecostal and either went to ORU or Southwestern Bible College or another Pentecostal type university.

It sure must be the center of the Bible belt! Never saw so many churches as I did there. Lots of Baptists there too.

Mostly everyone was quite friendly, though. Even when they found out I was from New York! Nice people.

Interesting. I personally do not know any Pentecostal people, nor do I know anyone who attended any of those types of universities or colleges. I know quite a few Baptists, but they do not push their beliefs on anyone. I personally am a Christian, but I'm not a member of any of those types of churches. I belong to a much more liberal, it's between you and God, think for yourself denomination.

[johnspecial]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

There is a certain irony (considering your love for the stars and bars) that essentially the ONLY reason there is a "Southern" Baptist denomination is that the Baptists in the south were staunch defenders of slavery while their northern counterparts were staunchly against slavery.

On January 27, 1861, before a standing room only audience Ebenezer W. Warren, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Macon, Georgia, delivered a sermon entitled “Scriptural Vindication of Slavery,” here partially quoted:

“Slavery forms a vital element of the Divine Revelation to man. Its institution, regulation, and perpetuity, constitute a part of many of the books of the Bible …. The public mind needs enlightening from the sacred teachings of inspiration on this subject …. We of the South have been passive, hoping the storm would subside …. Our passiveness has been our sin. We have not come to the vindication of God and of truth, as duty demanded …. it is necessary for ministers of the gospel … to teach slavery from the pulpit, as it was taught by the holy men of old, who spake as moved by the holy Spirit …. Both Christianity and Slavery are from heaven; both are blessings to humanity; both are to be perpetuated to the end of time …. Because Slavery is right; and because the condition of the slaves affords them all those privileges which would prove substantial blessings to them; and, too, because their Maker has decreed their bondage, and has given them, as a race, capacities and aspirations suited alone to this condition of life ….”

You sound extremely terrified of people of faith. Your outrageous correlation between religion and slavery demonstrates that fear quite well.

[swake]

You really should research the origins the "Southern Baptist Convention" and how it split from the northern Baptist churches in the middle the 19th century. Even the SBC finally apologized in 1995 for its former support of slavery and segregation.

It's kinda sad that it took them until 1995, but at least it happened.

[karen_in_nh_2012]

Originally Posted by johnspecial

You sound extremely terrified of people of faith. Your outrageous correlation between religion and slavery demonstrates that fear quite well.

He's showing fear? No, he's making a point. For some reason (fear of history?) you completely ignored that point and called him "terrified." How bizarre.

I have no problem with religious people who are good, kind people. Alas, too many of them aren't.