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Old 11-17-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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I have a problem with hyperbole and lying.

Would you have a problem with it if I was constantly claiming that there are gays here who - every time I go downtown - start hitting on me, make lewd gestures, and try to dry hump me?
No, I wouldn't "have a problem with it if {you were} constantly claiming that there are gays here who.... start hitting on {you}". You are relating your experiences. Your experiences aren't nonsense or right or wrong. I wouldn't criticize or try to belittle what happened to you, nor do I think you should criticize others. If someone says that they were sexually abused by their uncle, would you then go on to criticize them for exaggerating or posting "nonsense"?
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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The way he/she went about writing that post was a bit exaggerative and irresponsible, but I honestly think he/she has a valid point. You don't need to get so defensive because someone says one bad thing about Omaha. You are doing the same thing that I see from posters (probably Asian) in the Hawaii forum, which is flat out denying that there is racism toward whites in Hawaii except in this case it is flipped. While it is very annoying for people to exaggerate racism anywhere, it's also annoying when people dismiss it and claim the place is all kumbaya.
You're mixing the two issues.

Is there racism in Omaha. Well duh! There is racism everywhere.

Is it wide spread or common. Absolutely not, but that is what that poster was trying to imply.

You also have to remember that we get a lot of people that do this here in the Omaha forum. I honestly suspect it's 1 or 2 people posting under different names, but we'll routinely have some newbie who comes in here, makes some great claims about how racist Omaha is and never shows up again. A lot of us are sick of it, and know it's a lie.

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I wish I could be exaggerating . Moving here is going to change their life completely, the most responsible thing I could do, is to warn them.
You're downright full of ****, and I lived in Omaha for three times as long as you have.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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I have a problem with hyperbole and lying.

Would you have a problem with it if I was constantly claiming that there are gays here who - every time I go downtown - start hitting on me, make lewd gestures, and try to dry hump me?
How do you know the poster is lying? Are you omniscient?
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: West Omaha
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I think Omaha Rocks' problem is that people get on various threads and just throw out accusations. And when they do it they generally use statements like "its the most racist place I've ever been" or "everyone here is a racist" or "people here are bigots" and etc.

No one here denies that racism exists in Omaha. My point, however, has always been that racism in Omaha is no worse than other place.

There are issues that people have to deal with no matter where you live. The OP, presumably Hawaiian, is going to face these same problems anywhere else they move. Unless they restrict their destinations to about 1% of the country then these are things that are going to have to be dealt with.

This is why I get annoyed. I simply get tired of hearing about how horribly racist Omaha is. I think the reality is that the population is relatively homogeneous, but not racist. I think sometimes a person of minority status may feel out of place because they see a lot of white guys around. That's not the same thing as racism though. That's where I think Omaha Rocks has a point.

Anyway, no one is denying racism exists...but Omaha is not a den of racism and is no worse or better than anywhere else. So the OP should NOT be worried at all about moving to Omaha because of racism! Now, if they want a large Islander population then Omaha probably isn't a great fit. But they shouldn't make their decision on the belief that Omaha is a racist community...its not.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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I think Omaha Rocks' problem is that people get on various threads and just throw out accusations. And when they do it they generally use statements like "its the most racist place I've ever been" or "everyone here is a racist" or "people here are bigots" and etc.

No one here denies that racism exists in Omaha. My point, however, has always been that racism in Omaha is no worse than other place.

There are issues that people have to deal with no matter where you live. The OP, presumably Hawaiian, is going to face these same problems anywhere else they move. Unless they restrict their destinations to about 1% of the country then these are things that are going to have to be dealt with.

This is why I get annoyed. I simply get tired of hearing about how horribly racist Omaha is. I think the reality is that the population is relatively homogeneous, but not racist. I think sometimes a person of minority status may feel out of place because they see a lot of white guys around. That's not the same thing as racism though. That's where I think Omaha Rocks has a point.

Anyway, no one is denying racism exists...but Omaha is not a den of racism and is no worse or better than anywhere else. So the OP should NOT be worried at all about moving to Omaha because of racism! Now, if they want a large Islander population then Omaha probably isn't a great fit. But they shouldn't make their decision on the belief that Omaha is a racist community...its not.
Excellent post. My sentiments exactly.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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This thread is dealing with racism in Omaha. The OP asked a question, and I answered. You are trying way too hard to make it look like racism isn't a problem in Omaha, but you're not really getting anywhere with it.
No, I think you've made it perfectly clear that racism is indeed alive and well in Omaha. Congratulations on being at the very center of it.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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Where exactly are you hanging out downtown? I want to go there!
I was outside the old Zio's Pizza, and there was this weirdo in a cowboy hat that was not only hitting on me, but protesting Zio's Pizza. Go figure.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:01 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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How do you know the poster is lying? Are you omniscient?
Yes, as a matter of fact, I am. From here on out, please refer to me as God.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:03 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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I think Omaha Rocks' problem is that people get on various threads and just throw out accusations. And when they do it they generally use statements like "its the most racist place I've ever been" or "everyone here is a racist" or "people here are bigots" and etc.

No one here denies that racism exists in Omaha. My point, however, has always been that racism in Omaha is no worse than other place.

There are issues that people have to deal with no matter where you live. The OP, presumably Hawaiian, is going to face these same problems anywhere else they move. Unless they restrict their destinations to about 1% of the country then these are things that are going to have to be dealt with.

This is why I get annoyed. I simply get tired of hearing about how horribly racist Omaha is. I think the reality is that the population is relatively homogeneous, but not racist. I think sometimes a person of minority status may feel out of place because they see a lot of white guys around. That's not the same thing as racism though. That's where I think Omaha Rocks has a point.

Anyway, no one is denying racism exists...but Omaha is not a den of racism and is no worse or better than anywhere else. So the OP should NOT be worried at all about moving to Omaha because of racism! Now, if they want a large Islander population then Omaha probably isn't a great fit. But they shouldn't make their decision on the belief that Omaha is a racist community...its not.
Exactly.

They're going to have a lot more problems with snow and ice than they are with racism.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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Part of my "life experience" is that I've actually been around people - either standing or sitting next to them having a conversation - who have said stuff like, "Did you see that? That guy was staring at me because I'm black!" or "That black dude is sneering at me. I know he's trying to pick a fight!"

All I can do is say, "Nope, I didn't see that at all."

The problem, then, is that they go onto forums like this and claim that they're the victims of racism. But the truth is more apt to be that somebody of a different race happened to be in the same vicinity as them and looked at them - or somebody of a different race said something to them in a store, and they assumed it was a racist comment.


I guess maybe I should put on my Racism Radar, and turn it way up to Hyper-Sensitive. Maybe then I'd start seeing all this horrid racism we're always hearing about.
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