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Old 05-26-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by jasper12 View Post
School is for education and socialization. Not for providing contraceptive devices. If kids want these, they are available at any Wal-Mart, or other stores. I have not seen any teens who don't have enough money to purchase these items. Teens usually have spending money, even in low income areas.

The school crosses an ethical, and moral boundary when giving away free condoms at a prom.
It acknowledges that teens are sexually active, with no regard for the value system parents may be trying to instill in their teens about abstinence. Instead, the school blatently undermines parental values.

Besides...availability of condoms does not mean teens will use them. Teen pregnancy is not about lack of access or education about birth control. It is a complex social issue.
So that's why countries with greater access/education have a much lower birthrate than us ? And again you are correct most kids can buy them however that does not mean they will actually do that. No one is saying schools should be filled with contraceptive machines in the hallways just that access within a appropriate place is a good idea. And i'm sorry but parental rights are not absolute, and public health trumps them.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: North America
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If common sense and teens don't go hand in hand, which common sense already told me then my teen can't expect a condom provided by me, in their hand or my condoning sex.

You seem to think teaching abstinence to my children may make me unapproachable, which is an opinion I could, with all due respect, care less about but is also false. I have stated my discussion with my children covers the whole spectrum which includes ways to protect themselves if they choose sex, disease, pregnancy etc. etc. but I still do not condone it. As a parent I have provided the information and made it known that they are free to discuss with me anything becasue I discuss with them everything. If they then decide not to confide in me, or at least another repsonsible relative adult, I chalk it up to teens doing "dumb things" that they'll eventually learn from
Oh well that's fine then lol . As i said before stressing abstinence but teaching about other things is fine. My worry is the parents who teach that abstinence is the only method and that's it.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:28 AM
 
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If common sense and teens don't go hand in hand, which common sense already told me then my teen can't expect a condom provided by me, in their hand or my condoning sex.

You seem to think teaching abstinence to my children may make me unapproachable, which is an opinion I could, with all due respect, care less about but is also false. I have stated my discussion with my children covers the whole spectrum which includes ways to protect themselves if they choose sex, disease, pregnancy etc. etc. but I still do not condone it. As a parent I have provided the information and made it known that they are free to discuss with me anything becasue I discuss with them everything. If they then decide not to confide in me, or at least another repsonsible relative adult, I chalk it up to teens doing "dumb things" that they'll eventually learn from
You just described what is known as "abstinence plus" education which encourages abstinence as the healthiest choice but also provides teens with information regarding contraception, STD's, etc. That type of sex ed is much more effective the abstinence only education.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Then tell you child (not that 18 year olds are children) not to take one.

Why do your personal convictions trump public safety?

The school in the OP has a sex ed program that provides condoms. Parents can opt their underage children out. Same here. So why does one parents beliefs trump the schools responsibility to all of their students?

And the only purpose of statistics is to point out the FACT that not providing condoms does not prevent teen sex.

I wouldn't have to tell my child not to take one

My post was in response to another poster not the op

Why does my personal convictions trump public safety ???
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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I wouldn't have to tell my child not to take one

My post was in response to another poster not the op

Why does my personal convictions trump public safety ???
Right.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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I think it's rather sad that Prom has now become synonymous with getting overly drunk and having sex.
*NOW* ?

Are some people really this sheltered? Sex and drinking have been a part of prom since the 1940s, probably earlier. It was just less talked about then.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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Oh well that's fine then lol . As i said before stressing abstinence but teaching about other things is fine. My worry is the parents who teach that abstinence is the only method and that's it.
Does this parenting choice appeal more to the masses? Darn, wasn't my intention at all!
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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I wouldn't have to tell my child not to take one

My post was in response to another poster not the op

Why does my personal convictions trump public safety ???
Yes, the spread of STDs, particularly HIV, is a public safety issue. Would you prefer to the term public health/
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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You'd never have something like this take place in your southern red (bible belt) states which is exactly why they have the highest rate of teen pregnancies in the country.

High School kids are nothing more than hormones in tennis shoes, and all to often parents fail to have 'that talk' with their kid(s).
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:52 AM
 
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Did I really just read that sex education should come from the INTERNET?! That someone would rather that than their teens getting the truth from school blows my mind.

Also, how is sex education, contraception and STD prevention NOT a matter of public safety? Goodness.
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