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Old 06-30-2014, 06:11 PM
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So its okay for the son to sacrifice, but not okay for the mom to sacrifice?
The son isn't being asked to sacrifice his values or go against his conscience. He isn't being put in a position between choosing what he thinks is wrong or pleasing a family member.

 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:18 PM
 
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you may be a big proponent of "my house, my rules"
but you can't control seeing your grandchildren or having a relationship with your adult children once they leave your communistic estate. and don't be surprised when they cut off all contact and forbid you from seeing their kids. but i guess "my house my rules" worked so well when they were under age 18, didnt it
Did you read my entire post? The fact that you are trying to debate me over that one statementleads me to believe you did not.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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He isn't being put in a position between choosing what he thinks is wrong or pleasing a family member.
He absolutely is, He either makes his mother happy by having them sleep in separate rooms, or potentially upsetting his girlfriend by making her sleep alone in a place she is already potentially uncomfortable in
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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So its okay for the son to sacrifice, but not okay for the mom to sacrifice? Mom wants the son to stay, so IMO she should be the one to make the sacrifices
She can choose not to sacrifice her "values" if she wants, but the son holds all the cards here and has already put a Royal Flush on the ing table. She has nothing that scares him at this point.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:21 PM
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He absolutely is, He either makes his mother happy by having them sleep in separate rooms, or potentially upsetting his girlfriend by making her sleep alone in a place she is already potentially uncomfortable in
Not the same thing. I would never ask someone to violate their belief system/religion to accommodate me. If my wife loved pork but my parents were Jewish and didn't allow it in their home, I would not do it even if my wife did get upset because at the end of the day whether we eat pork or not has nothing do with our belief system just as whether her son sleeps with his gf or not has nothing do with his...its just a preference.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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Not the same thing. I would never ask someone to violate their belief system/religion to accommodate me. If my wife loved pork but my parents were Jewish and didn't allow it in their home, I would not do it even if my wife did get upset because at the end of the day whether we eat pork or not has nothing do with our belief system.
That's only a valid argument if you make your parents eat the pork as well.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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She can choose not to sacrifice her "values" if she wants, but the son holds all the cards here and has already put a Royal Flush on the ing table. She has nothing that scares him at this point.
Exactly. I'm stunned that so many are supporting the OP in this case. I'm not speaking to her Victorian morals, more to her childish response. In reality she is the one throwing the tantrum. She laid down her rules, her son chose to stay elsewhere, now she is having a hissy fit. You made your bed, you lie in it.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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The son isn't being asked to sacrifice his values or go against his conscience. He isn't being put in a position between choosing what he thinks is wrong or pleasing a family member.
But her son isn't asking her to do that. He made a statement about what his conditions are for staying at her home.

She gave him her terms and he gave her his. They don't agree. Neither one wants to budge, and neither one should be forced to. As a result, she has less time with her son and is upset. He does not appear to be upset by it at all.

Do you think an adult child should be required to sleep at his mother's home and spend a specific amount of time when he visits, whether he wants to or not, just to please his mother?
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:26 PM
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That's only a valid argument if you make your parents eat the pork as well.
It is valid argument because in both cases the parents already have rules established for their house based on their moral code and are being asked to violate them to appease their child.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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It is valid argument because in both cases the parents already have rules established for their house based on their moral code and are being asked to violate them to appease their child.
Then she has to deal with her son not staying there, and its nobody's fault but her own.
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