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Hey, I come from the 50s when a kid got "beat with the ironing cord"...which didn't work, so why did a parent continue the corporal punishment? If the kid continued, isn't it time to try a new punishment?
The teachers in those days were allowed to paddle, the woodshop teacher took pride in making the longest, thickest paddle in the school. I didn't like that girls were paddled by male teachers on the rump. NOT on the hands, or leg but on the buttocks! these teachers even bragged about "how the paddle" was designed and cut, with drilled holes in them to 'suck the meat thru' when on the upswing to get better speed! WTF?
This was NOT in a rural small town, it was in Michigan, in Pontiac & Detroit areas.
Anybody else get paddled, and when did they stop this practice?
The definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result!
If a punishment is not effective no matter what it is then I guess it's time to go back to the "toolbox" and figure out some other way.
well my father spanked me, and it worked for me i have to say. it did not work for my brother though. i dont use corporal punishment on my son because i dont want to hurt him. although sometimes i think he can use a good spanking!
Didn't work for me. I just became better at not getting caught. In me it bred resentment too.
Not saying I haven't spanked my kids but it has been a rarity in their upbringing. I have boys 10 and 16 who are the kids other parents want around to "set a good example"... kids who never get in trouble in school, and who are generally well behaved at home. I don't think it's cuz I spanked them a few times, really.
Now on the other hand we have a 5 yo girl who is the kind that makes people say "that child NEEDS a spanking!"... and we went down that road for a while, but it didn't help one bit.
Worked with me.I never wanted my mother to report waht i had done to my father because I knew that it meant I had taled my way uot of it.I could have given a heck about reasoning and being talked to. That comes when you get older.It has to be consistaant because threating parents are a joke with kids. Now days I often see kids threatening their parents in public;hate to see waht its like at home.
we have a 5 yo girl who is the kind that makes people say "that child NEEDS a spanking!"
I have one of those too. And while she sometimes DOES get a spanking, she's still strong-willed and "spirited." It will serve her well one day, I'm sure, but for now, she spends a good bit of time on the "naughty step." LOL
I have one of those too. And while she sometimes DOES get a spanking, she's still strong-willed and "spirited." It will serve her well one day, I'm sure, but for now, she spends a good bit of time on the "naughty step." LOL
LOL yes I totally know what you mean.
My ever-insightful 10 year old always reminds us and says things like "Well, we don't have to worry about her being pushed around or bullied when she's older!" That's a good way to spin it, huh?
To be fair, she has other issues behind her behavior (which we're seeking therapy for).. but sometimes, wow. I had a friend who used to say, about HER strong willed daughter, "If she'd been born first she'd be an only child." LOL (she was the third)... and some days I totally get that!
I was raised in the 50s/60s and was spanked. I hated, hated, hated it. I especially hated being told the lie, "This hurts me more than it does you." Bull! As a child I resolved if I *ever* had kids, they would never, ever be spanked, smacked, slapped or whatever. I was going to stop the cycle. I'd find a different way to make my point.
Well, I married and eventually had the spanking discussion with the husband, who was initially on the fence ("We got spanked and we turned out ok..." ). It was my contention that when you hit a child, you teach them that you have the right to hit people when they do things you don't like. You especially have that right if the person with whom you disagree is smaller than you are. That was not a lesson I wanted to teach.
I won. Our child, who is now a teen, has never been spanked or smacked or hit (playful little slaps in fun don't count). We used other methods of teaching discipline.
We must have done something right because, for our son's entire life, we've gotten nothing but glowing reports about what a delightful young man he is. Fun, funny, respectful, compassionate and just an all-around nice guy. I think not spanking, coupled with other forms of teaching disciple, played a key role in helping him develop into the person he is now.
I laughed at your question, because the answer is of course not. But humans do plenty of things that don't do any good. People get frustrated, then they loose control. That's some. The rest of them have been trained to be control freaks whose violence is justified, and that does not work either.
It worked for me. Did not work for my brother though. I did not get many whoopings-but I deserved the ones I got. I did not get whooped with switches like some of my friends. They had to go outside and pick their own switch. My mom and dad used a belt.
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). It was my contention that when you hit a child, you teach them that you have the right to hit people when they do things you don't like. You especially have that right if the person with whom you disagree is smaller than you are. That was not a lesson I wanted to teach.
