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Old 05-08-2014, 03:20 PM
 
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Unfortunately for you, the Bible is simply not that clear on the subject.
...if you cherry pick it and twist it.

Even if the bible said nothing about it, the medical records gathered across the nation by the United States Center of Disease Control clearly indicate that those who engage in homosexual practices have many more cases of STDs, AIDs and mental illness.

Why would anybody in their right mind, want to legally support and encourage behavior that PROVES to be harmful to many people?
The only reason, is insanity &/or peer pressure/group thought.

"Insanity in individuals is rare - but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule." -Friedrich Nietzsche

 
Old 05-08-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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This thread simply proves that Fundamentalists are small-minded, arrogant, not-very-bright bigots. They deserve whatever scorn is heaped their way.
It proves that many don't understand basic logic and philosophy - with all of the logical fallacies - including yours of ad hominem attack.

Ad hominmen logical fallacy is basically name-calling when you have nothing better to add.
 
Old 05-08-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Then maybe you better start taking inventory of what your friends and family are eating. I'm sure most of them aren't eating a completely healthy diet. It must be a heavy weight on your shoulders, what with being appointed by God to let everyone around you know what is and isn't harmful to them.
Straw man logical fallacy.

Come on guys - can't you do better than this??

Maybe you're too upset to think logically...

"Sometimes the sures way to upset people is to tell them the truth." - Margaret Wente
 
Old 05-08-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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It's nothing but an attempt to force religious fundamentalism on everyone.
Your projection is helpful... It is true that many (not all) with homosexual fetishes are attempting to force acceptance of their fetishes on everyone - even legally - in this country.

And it is true that many have suffered for it.


Even if you don't care what people do behind closed doors, and don't care if they legally support a harmful disorder or not...
You might care if such measures to redefine marriage based on sexual fetishes, infringed on YOUR rights, as they have on others'.

Children have the right to not be taught homosexuality in school. Yet, in places where homosexual fetish marriage has been supported, these rights have been infringed upon...
*Freshmen were told not to tell their parents about a pro-gay seminar & were required to sign a confidentiality agreement (Derrfield, Illinois Mar. 2007).
*In March, 2007, a Massachusetts high school banned parents from attending a seminar for students on how they can know they are homosexual.
*In October, 2008, First graders (6 year-old students) were taken on a field trip to watch their lesbian teacher's wedding.
*In Oct 2008, a Hayward CA public elementary school celebrated "Coming Out Day."

Normalizing & even encouraging children to explore homosexuality obviously causes more to experiment with homosexuality.
"The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in Schools... This report is part of an integrated strategy to inform and educate parents, students and school officials across the nation of its contents and of their respective rights and duties. It has documented the concern that the health of students in many schools across the country may have been compromised and their First Amendment rights may have been denied."
http://www.afamichigan.org/images/Legal ... 200504.pdf

Some in the homosexual fetish activist group have bluntly admitted that their eventual goal is to normalize pedophilia and inappropriate adult-child sexual relations.

Many have been harassed by the homosexual fetish herd, without public notice, but some have been public, like Chick Filay and a Miss America contestant, both who voiced their support for marriage between a man and a woman.
Other examples include...
*In April 2008, an Albuquerque photographer was fined over $6,000 for refusing to be hired to photograph a lesbian couple's commitment ceremony.
*In May, 2008, a black administrator was fired from the U of Toledo, Ohio, for writing an editorial objecting to the comparison of black discrimination to same-sex marriage.
*An intolerant opponent of Proposition 8 violently attacked & injured a Proposition supporter in Oct. 2008.
*On November 19, 2008, eHarmony, a Christian-based matching service was forced by New Jersey's Division on Civil Rights to provide website matching services for homosexuals.
 
Old 05-08-2014, 03:33 PM
 
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No, it doesn't. Sexual orientation is not a choice. Being gay (and bisexual, for that matter) is a much harder life than being heterosexual. Why would someone choose to be discriminated against? Also, how do you know what a silent, invisible being wants? If you're going to go with the Bible being evidence, that's an epic fail. The Bible was written by ancient men thousands of years ago who never actually communicated with this silent, invisible being either.
If you notice, the OP mentions NOTHING about religion.
The argument stands by itself... the practice of homosexuality is both illogical and harmful - according to basic human anatomy and the US CDC.

Still, people who really know me (nobody on this forum) - know that I would do anything for anyone I care about - including family and friends with homosexual preferences. Nobody's perfect... but I won't pretend harmful behavior is healthy.

"Tolerance applies to persons, but never to truth.
Intolerance applies to truth, but never to persons.
Tolerance applies to the erring; intolerance ot the error." - Fulton Sheen
 
Old 05-08-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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Supporting gays is supporting to rid yourself of freedom of speech and expression. We criticize you but you do not criticize us. That is how homosexuals act.
Sad, but true.
 
Old 05-08-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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Are homosexual practices illogical and harmful?
No and sometimes.

We want what we want. It just IS. I can't help being heterosexual any more than they can help being homosexual.

It can be harmful when it is forced on another, but the same can be said for heterosexual "practices".

As for the bigots, the argument is lost when you reduce homosexuality to sex, body parts and what goes where. This speaks to your perversion, not theirs.

It's not a matter for anyone to approve of or disapprove outside of the relationship. God or no god, it's no one's business. As long as no one is being forced into it, mind your own. Homosexuality is not something that is being done to you. It's not happening to you. It's not about you. You're just not that important. If you believe in God, let him handle it. He did create them, after all.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:04 AM
 
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...if you cherry pick it and twist it.

Even if the bible said nothing about it, the medical records gathered across the nation by the United States Center of Disease Control clearly indicate that those who engage in homosexual practices have many more cases of STDs, AIDs and mental illness.

Why would anybody in their right mind, want to legally support and encourage behavior that PROVES to be harmful to many people?
The only reason, is insanity &/or peer pressure/group thought.

"Insanity in individuals is rare - but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule." -Friedrich Nietzsche
Is HIV as prevalent with lesbians as heterosexual women?
 
Old 05-10-2014, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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It proves that many don't understand basic logic and philosophy - with all of the logical fallacies - including yours of ad hominem attack.

Ad hominmen logical fallacy is basically name-calling when you have nothing better to add.
I didn't need to add anything "better."

My post said it all.

Your posts prove it.

You may veil your homophobia with medical "reasons" but it's quite sheer and easily seen through.
 
Old 05-10-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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SuperSoul, your logic here actually argues in favor of homosexual relationships since homosexual women have far lower rates of HIV transmission, if any, via their homosexual sex compared to heterosexual sex. While hetero women are at significantly higher risk than homosexual sex. That's your logic, but will you acknowledge it? No. Given that your logic and fallacy schmallacy arguments are full of fail, why should anyone take you as an authority on the word of God. Why do you take yourself as an authority to speak for God?

http://www.gmhc.org/files/editor/fil...paper_0609.pdf
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