LA Times article on the "future of Phoenix" (Tucson: bankruptcy, schools)

[phoenixmike11]

Arizona voting law disenfranchises citizens - latimes.com

another LA Times op-ed critical of Arizona

[cacto]

Originally Posted by motormaker

You might want to read this 2011 report and look at the charts at the bottom.

I might, if you'd post a link to it.

[Sunni2012]

Im sure a lot of you have seen all the past and future Building going on in Dubai. They were a desert, nothing there and now look at them. One of the most prosperous places and growing to live. Temperatures much like AZ and rainfall also.
I think AZ will adapt more towards the heat issue. One thing i think there should be more of in AZ is parking garages throughout Mall areas and big strip malls and places like Home Depot etc. it would defiantely cut down on the parking lot heat and create more shady areas.

[Alexico]

Originally Posted by YAZ

Upset 'cuz they're losing their most valuable asset:

Taxpayers.

I like that!

[cacto]

Originally Posted by Sunni2012

Im sure a lot of you have seen all the past and future Building going on in Dubai. They were a desert, nothing there and now look at them. One of the most prosperous places and growing to live. Temperatures much like AZ and rainfall also.
I think AZ will adapt more towards the heat issue. One thing i think there should be more of in AZ is parking garages throughout Mall areas and big strip malls and places like Home Depot etc. it would defiantely cut down on the parking lot heat and create more shady areas.

The whole Arabian peninsula is a great example of desert urbanism persisting for millennia. Deserts are a scary thing to most North Americans yet they cover a third of the Earth and people have adapted to them since Paleolithic times.

Civilization started in desert river valleys 9000 years ago where people lived in 100 plus temps for months without AC and prospered and eventually what we call Western Civilization followed.

[corydon]

Originally Posted by Sunni2012

Im sure a lot of you have seen all the past and future Building going on in Dubai. .

I seen and read about the sewage system in Dubai... basicly they fogat to built one....
Now it is all trucked out to a giant hoke outside the city, but many drivers dump it in the sea, saving the long drive......

And yes, people lived in the desert for a long time, just like everywhere else, It was not al that great.

Filthy Rich: Dubai Choking on Sewage - ABC News

They built these islands for the super wealthy, now it is a garbage dump......

[Sunni2012]

That' article is 4 yrs old. I'm sure since then Dubai has fixed the problem

I have 2 clients that travel to Dubai frequently and never once have the said it Smells or is a garbage pit. In fact just the opposite about how gorgeous it is etc

[bluegrey]

I know they truck out sewage in Dubai, but the skyline is one of the most modern in the world.

[Potential_Landlord]

If anyone makes a prediction, do not believe him/her. On average, predictions are just plain bad. We are not good at predicting complex systems such as cities, states, GDP, stock market, the weather beyond 3 days, you name it. Anyone claiming they know what's coming is a liar or a fool. Instead, we take those prediction makers way too seriously. Too many variables, to many cause and effect relations, some self-reinforcing, some self-regulating - forget about it. If on top of that there is a political agenda and/or neighboring state rivalry in the mix, any prediction will be pure nonsense and we should treat it as such.

[motormaker]

Originally Posted by cacto

I might, if you'd post a link to it.

OOps

Here it is

http://angeles.sierraclub.org/water/...s%20Report.pdf


and there is more info if you Google

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