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Old 11-01-2019, 04:18 PM
 
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The exceptions to this would be the Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex, and the Bay Area which includes 3 large cities.
While the Bay Area is one TV market (#8) and one CSA (Combined Statistical Area) it is still officially two separate MSA's:

#12 San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley, CA MSA 4,729,484

#35 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA 1,999,107


The Triangle is also like this (1 CSA, but 2 MSA's) but much closer:

Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC Combined Statistical Area 2,238,315

#42 Raleigh-Cary, NC MSA 1,362,540

#97 Durham-Chapel Hill, NC MSA 575,412
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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While the Bay Area is one TV market (#8) and one CSA (Combined Statistical Area) it is still officially two separate MSA's:

#12 San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley, CA MSA 4,729,484

#35 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA 1,999,107


The Triangle is also like this (1 CSA, but 2 MSA's) but much closer:

Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC Combined Statistical Area 2,238,315

#42 Raleigh-Cary, NC MSA 1,362,540

#97 Durham-Chapel Hill, NC MSA 575,412
The Bay Area is a whole different animal as far as metro areas are concerned. Despite having 3 large cities, San Francisco is still considered the core city because it's where a good share of the corporate business is headquartered, as well as being historically & culturally significant. It's often referred to as "the city" by lots of people in the Bay Area.

San Jose has a larger population than San Francisco, and could be considered a separate metro area, but even with its large size and notable tech industry, it's still very much overshadowed by San Francisco. San Jose looks & feels like a huge suburb, and in fact it still is sometimes considered to be an oversized San Francisco suburb. I consider the Bay Area to be one metroplex, inclusive of San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland, and all the smaller suburbs.
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:42 PM
 
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The Bay Area is a whole different animal as far as metro areas are concerned. Despite having 3 large cities, San Francisco is still considered the core city because it's where a good share of the corporate business is headquartered, as well as being historically & culturally significant. It's often referred to as "the city" by lots of people in the Bay Area.

San Jose has a larger population than San Francisco, and could be considered a separate metro area, but even with its large size and notable tech industry, it's still very much overshadowed by San Francisco. San Jose looks & feels like a huge suburb, and in fact it still is sometimes considered to be an oversized San Francisco suburb. I consider the Bay Area to be one metroplex, inclusive of San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland, and all the smaller suburbs.
I totally agree with everything you said, you'll get not argument from me, I was just pointing out what the US government uses as the "official" MSA's throughout the country.

Having lived in the Triangle, people laugh that the metroplex is divided up into two seperate MSA's by the US government!
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