New Oakland Bike Lane (Pittsburgh, Liberty: neighborhood, quality of life, to live in)

[tyovan4]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

"CARS FIRST---OUTTA MY WAY!!!"

Pot, calling Kettle. Comm check. Over.

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

Our region needs to stop whining; stomach a tax increase

In addition to increases in state taxes? In addition to the extra taxes we already pay in the County (1% extra sales tax, drink tax, emissions tests, now higher registration fees for vehicles, etc, etc)??

How about our region just stop throwing money away at boondoggles like the Wilson Center and the "affordable housing for all" push?

I live frugally and responsibly, on a budget. After all of my monthly obligations are paid, I have about $400 left over. For everything - car inspection, my water heater blowing up, haircuts, entertainment, etc.
Tax increases, even minor, will have little effect on my gross salary - but will take a far more serious hit on my expendable income, as it will have the same effects on many others. This ripple effect will be felt throughout the regional economy as the velocity of money slows. More people paying more taxes results in less money for luxuries - such as food deliveries.

[BrassTacksGal]

Originally Posted by tclifton

I've never wished or hoped for people to die. That's a level of sickness that confounds me.

Same here, it's awful. It's terrible for SCR to want Yinzers to die off and people who don't behave in traffic the way SCR thinks the should. It's disgusting.

If he thinks Europe is all peace and love on the highways, he's clearly never been to Europe. Italy is NOTHING like that, nor are most of the other countries in Europe. There are virtually no rules and cars constantly zip in and out of traffic and blare their horns constantly. Motorcycles ride down the middle of two lanes of traffic, scaring the crap out of drivers. European traffic is not for the faint of heart.

[Yac]

It's not about Europe or whatnot, it's about remaining calm and respectful. You're posting from your home, no one is forcing you to do anything, there is no pressure, why so angry ? Especially online, in a thread about bike lanes ? And what is it with the death wishing ?
There's a time and place for being passionate, angry, for ranting etc. Online forum, a topic about bike lanes.. it really is not one of those .. places. Or times.
Anyway, you get what I'm trying to say.
Yac,

[PIT2MAD]

This is not a war. One side is not going to "win"...but there is clearly a movement in many cities, Pittsburgh included, to improve their networks of green spaces and bike/pedestrian infrastructure. In many of these cases, it involves slowing vehicle traffic and sometimes taking away road space in the form of lane/parking removal or through the use of curb cuts/bollards/etc.

None, let me repeat, NONE of this is being done to appease the suburban commuter. For the most part, they are not bringing in the money to the neighborhood businesses. It's being done to improve the quality of life for the residents of the city. City dwellers suffer every day from the focus on vehicles in their neighborhoods and the lack of safe access in place where bike lanes and sidewalks do not exist at all.

The city may be losing overall population but certain areas are definitely benefiting from the Millennials' move back into cities and that should only continue going forward. The anti bike crowd seems to consist mainly of the people who live and play outside of the city anyways because they value their space and don't enjoy the density of people.

Since there is literally nothing logical for the city to do that would entice these suburban types to live in the city and spend a significant part of their money there (huge free parking lots and fast wide roads through every neighborhood?! How did that work for E Liberty?), the only logical thing is to make the neighborhoods and the connectivity better for those that actually LIVE there. I, for one, am glad Pgh has just the kind of logical person at the helm to understand this!

[erieguy]

^^^^Bingo...and vice versa for the way the burbs are set up.

[Goinback2011]

Lots of people who live in the city near the proposed bike lanes are opposed to them. Did you see the hearings?

[Copanut]

How will they be able to plow the streets with those cones sticking up?

[WhoIsStanwix?]

Originally Posted by Copanut

How will they be able to plow the streets with those cones sticking up?

Peduto and gang are going to put a plow on the front of the party pedaler.

[AaronPGH]

Originally Posted by PIT2MAD

This is not a war. One side is not going to "win"...but there is clearly a movement in many cities, Pittsburgh included, to improve their networks of green spaces and bike/pedestrian infrastructure. In many of these cases, it involves slowing vehicle traffic and sometimes taking away road space in the form of lane/parking removal or through the use of curb cuts/bollards/etc.

None, let me repeat, NONE of this is being done to appease the suburban commuter. For the most part, they are not bringing in the money to the neighborhood businesses. It's being done to improve the quality of life for the residents of the city. City dwellers suffer every day from the focus on vehicles in their neighborhoods and the lack of safe access in place where bike lanes and sidewalks do not exist at all.

The city may be losing overall population but certain areas are definitely benefiting from the Millennials' move back into cities and that should only continue going forward. The anti bike crowd seems to consist mainly of the people who live and play outside of the city anyways because they value their space and don't enjoy the density of people.

Since there is literally nothing logical for the city to do that would entice these suburban types to live in the city and spend a significant part of their money there (huge free parking lots and fast wide roads through every neighborhood?! How did that work for E Liberty?), the only logical thing is to make the neighborhoods and the connectivity better for those that actually LIVE there. I, for one, am glad Pgh has just the kind of logical person at the helm to understand this!

Great post!

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by PIT2MAD

This is not a war. One side is not going to "win"...but there is clearly a movement in many cities, Pittsburgh included, to improve their networks of green spaces and bike/pedestrian infrastructure. In many of these cases, it involves slowing vehicle traffic and sometimes taking away road space in the form of lane/parking removal or through the use of curb cuts/bollards/etc.

None, let me repeat, NONE of this is being done to appease the suburban commuter. For the most part, they are not bringing in the money to the neighborhood businesses. It's being done to improve the quality of life for the residents of the city. City dwellers suffer every day from the focus on vehicles in their neighborhoods and the lack of safe access in place where bike lanes and sidewalks do not exist at all.

A lot of city of Pittsburgh residents are motorists, and making it more difficult for these resident (who have higher disposable income on average) to patronize city businesses isn't going to help the businesses at all and reduce the appeal of city living.