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Old 07-16-2010, 06:58 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So are you saying the people who are building a community center in New York are the violent ones? Care to fill me in on the violent crimes those people in particular took part in? Or that they are planning to take part in in the future? (reputable sources here would be nice)
Well there was the Fort Dix plot,another plot up in Buffalo NY,Fort Hood shootings,the original WTC bombing...just off the top of my head.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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I have two questions,is this building going to be built directly on the 9/11 site or how close?
Im not sure we have a right to tell someone where they can buy land or build something..
When it comes to a faith-based building.From a legal standpoint...
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:51 AM
 
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How much longer will America tolerate mosques?
Maybe all muslims should be required to wear on their clothing a prominent symbol (such as the half moon).
As long as the First Amendment is in the Constitution.

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Old 07-16-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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I have two questions,is this building going to be built directly on the 9/11 site or how close?
Im not sure we have a right to tell someone where they can buy land or build something..
When it comes to a faith-based building.From a legal standpoint...
Two blocks away. The video - well, let's just say it's not intended to inform people.
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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So are you saying the people who are building a community center in New York are the violent ones? Care to fill me in on the violent crimes those people in particular took part in? Or that they are planning to take part in in the future? (reputable sources here would be nice)
You have some mighty selective reading. See bold above.

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Well there was the Fort Dix plot,another plot up in Buffalo NY,Fort Hood shootings,the original WTC bombing...just off the top of my head.
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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I guess I'm not understanding the issue. If I'm reading the article below correctly - they OWN the land, and require no zoning changes.

"I think it's the right thing to do," said Marvin Bethea, who was a paramedic at ground zero. "I lost 16 friends down there. But Muslims also got killed on 9/11. It would be a good sign of faith that we're not condemning all Muslims and that the Muslims who did this happened to be extremists. As a black man, I know what it's like to be discriminated against when you haven't done anything."

Mosque to go up near New York's ground zero - CNN.com
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:39 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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"I think it's the right thing to do," said Marvin Bethea, who was a paramedic at ground zero. "I lost 16 friends down there. But Muslims also got killed on 9/11.It would be a good sign of faith that we're not condemning all Muslims and that the Muslims who did this happened to be extremists. As a black man, I know what it's like to be discriminated against when you haven't done anything."

Mosque to go up near New York's ground zero - CNN.com
That is true,of course most of them were flying the aircraft and meant to die....
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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I guess I'm not understanding the issue. If I'm reading the article below correctly - they OWN the land, and require no zoning changes.

"I think it's the right thing to do," said Marvin Bethea, who was a paramedic at ground zero. "I lost 16 friends down there. But Muslims also got killed on 9/11. It would be a good sign of faith that we're not condemning all Muslims and that the Muslims who did this happened to be extremists. As a black man, I know what it's like to be discriminated against when you haven't done anything."

Mosque to go up near New York's ground zero - CNN.com
Wow. Someone who was actually there, as a paramedic no less, has a better head on his shoulders than half the people here. Good post.
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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That is true,of course most of them were flying the aircraft and meant to die....
Wow, just wow. This has already been posted in many threads about Muslims but you tend to overlook that right? This was from the thread I started about the "Mosque" not being a "Mosque." Read up.

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Partial List of Muslim 9/11 Victims:

. . .

Samad Afridi
Ashraf Ahmad
Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children)
Umar Ahmad
Azam Ahsan
Ahmed Ali
Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children)
Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran)
Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury
Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack)
Jamal Legesse Desantis
Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
SaleemUllah Farooqi
Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes)
Osman Gani
Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old)
Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet)
Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom)
Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan)
Nabid Hossain
Shahzad Hussain
Talat Hussain
Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan)
Yasmeen Jamal
Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security)
Arslan Khan Khakwani
Asim Khan
Ataullah Khan
Ayub Khan
Qasim Ali Khan
Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures)
Yasmeen Khan
Zahida Khan
Badruddin Lakhani
Omar Malick
Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old)
Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old)
Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures)
Raza Mujtaba
Omar Namoos
Mujeb Qazi
Tarranum Rahim
Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old)
Ameenia Rasool (33 years old)
Naveed Rehman
Yusuf Saad
Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant)
Shoman Samad
Asad Samir
Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November)
Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust)
Jamil Swaati
Sanober Syed
Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie)
W. Wahid


Muslim Victims of Terrorist Attack, September 11, 2001

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Old 07-16-2010, 02:53 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Wow, just wow. Ignorance is all this is. This has already been posted in many threads about Muslims but you tend to overlook that right? This was from the thread I started about the "Mosque" not being a "Mosque." Read up.
Don't forget the 19 terrorists...who oddly enough were ALL Muslims.

How is THAT for a coincidence?
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