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Jennifer is in the School Counselor MA program.
The Counselor Education Program Student Handbook, that Jennifer received when starting the program, says upfront that students will be evaluated on interpersonal skills and that students receiving unsatisfactory assessments may be put on remediation status - and that faculty may reinstate or terminate students from the program based on compliance with the remediation plan.
Interpersonal skills are kinda important in counselling. I pity any kid who gets assigned to her.
"25. Dr. Anderson-Wiley then reported to Miss Keeton that the faculty is concerned
with certain of Miss Keeton’s beliefs and views that she has shared in class and with other
students pertaining to GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender) issues. The faculty
identifies Miss Keeton’s views as indicative of her improper professional disposition to persons
of such populations."
Your post as many others here, have more than logically explained why this young woman is in the wrong environment for what she plans on accomplishing in her career. She clearly does not fit the criteria for this particular school's program. She is outright descriminating and should seek a more appropriate place for herself with like minded others. The only ones moaning and groaning on her behalf on this thread, are obviously the ones that sympathize with the likes of people such as Sarah "pray away the gay" Palin. There is just as much reasoning with these folks as there is on the "Creationism" threads.
want to bet that if she was muslim the college would not say a damn word?
It's got nothing to do with being a a Christian or Muslim. It's about being accredited as a professional. This is Augusta, Georgia - hardly a liberal bastion. If a Muslim or Christian counselor tried to convert kids then that's another matter - but I'd have no problems with my kids seeing a counselor just because he/she was a Muslim.
Just like homosexuality is a choice, the counselor you see is a choice. Homosexuality is an abnormal mental disease and should be treated as such. This girl paid for her education and should be able to use it as she sees fit.
Oddly you seem to be obsessed with it, you know what that usually means.
It's got nothing to do with being a a Christian or Muslim. It's about being accredited as a professional.
Emphatically agree. If you're going to be an accredited professional, you need to live up to the profession's standards.
If a medical student declares that he's intending to practice medicine according to Hippocrates' concept of the 4 humors - complete with bloodletting and leeches - obviously, it is the responsibility of his medical school to withhold certification.
Same here. You don't get to be a certified counselor - indeed, a certified anything - without submitting to the guidelines of the certifying body.
Maybe she can work for the Vatican, they like zealots like her, But I agree with the others saying a counselor should be objective, rational and open-minded.
So this girl is adamant about her religion and her religion condemns homosexuals as godless, evil and sinners. The University is worried about her being accredited as a counselor if she adheres to the view that any homosexual coming to her for help must be either converted to her religion and renounce their sexual orientation, or be treated like an evil sinner by this supposed counselor.
If my child or friend was going to go to a counselor to work through the complex issues of sexual orientation, I would be horrified if they ended up going to a fanatic adherent to a religion that demonizes homosexuality. You could end up with suicides with that situation, or irreparable psychological damage CAUSED by a person hired to help people understand their psyches.
Maybe the religious girl should go to seminary school and become a religious counselor. Oh, wait, religions generally don't allow women to serve in positions of authority--those are reserved for men, which the religions also considers superior. Maybe she could be a nun and teach religious school children the dogma of homosexuals = sinners.
You AND the school are 100% wrong. It is none of the schools business what someone does AFTER they get thier degree.
A ciriculum is established. The student met all the requirements to get that degree.
When people are Christian extremists, then for some reason they are expected to get a pass, we should accept their opinion because they are Christian? Why? If she were hell-bent on converting people to radical Islam, or Satanism, or believed everyone should be a radical feminist people would be decrying her beliefs. This is not about the general population, but about someone who will be sought out by those that are in need of help, and who need to trust their counselor will be objective, and have their best interests at heart, and not her own.
Actually this is not true. In public schools students still have to sign up to abide by classroom codes of conduct. You are inflammatory in the class, you can get kicked out. Too bad, so sad. For Counselling they may have had to sign something in addition. Agreeing to abide by the Codes of Ethics of their profession.
Sounds like if Ms. Keeton had kept her beliefs to herself she would have been ok. But she started going on a preaching binge with the rest of the class. She should have known better, going for her Masters in Counselling, that anti-homosexual ranting will probably get you in trouble.
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Who said she was preaching. I'm sorry making your views known is now preaching?!?
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You AND the school are 100% wrong. It is none of the schools business what someone does AFTER they get thier degree.
A ciriculum is established. The student met all the requirements to get that degree.
For some degrees, obviously true. But for professionals, the degree also carries with it an expectation of commitment to professional standards. (That's what professional used to mean, anyway.)
To go back to my previous example: If a medical student declares that he's only going through the motions, but intends to actually use medieval treatment methods like bloodletting and mercury treatments, should a medical school just shrug, say "none of our beeswax" and let him loose with the initials "M.D." behind his name?
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Homosexuality is an abnormal mental disease and should be treated as such. This girl paid for her education and should be able to use it as she sees fit.
