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I don't know what is "reacting negatively" in this case. I can't say that wondering why someone would want to fly another country's flag while living in different country is reacting negatively. Are you insinuating that anyone who wonders of those motives is xenophobic or something? If I walked out onto my street and saw another flag being flown on a house, I would have to wonder, "Geez, where is the USA flag? Do they not appreciate the fact that they are here in this country?" "Are they from that country? Or is this an act of novelty on their part?" People fly flags for different reasons, so people wonder. Also, doesn't it make you wonder how a person can show appreciation for another country, but not wave the flag of the country that they are priviledged to be living and possibly working in?
I'm not insinuating anything beyond the OP's post. I also don't thing flag waving is the best way to show appreciation for anything. IMHO it's mostly just for decoration and fun.
When someone moves from the city to the country and they decide to educate the country residents by telling them how it was done in the city, that's disrespectful. The relocated former city dweller should take the time to learn how the country residents handle things. By doing this s/he is showing respect and consideration as the newcomer. In time the old timers will come to accept the newcomer and will perhaps accept and incorporate some of the city ways.
Same goes for people coming here from wherever else. Come in legally. Respect our laws and learn how we function. Work with the community to become part of the community. Fly your home flag, but fly your new flag, too.
I always try to think from another person's perspective. So, I asked myself, "If I moved to Japan, Uruguay or Italy," would I fly my US flag outside my home or proudly display it on other property of mine? The answer is that I wouldn't even be motivated to do that in another country. I mean, I'm in another country, what catalyst would have to happen for me to say, "Gee, I want to put up the flag of my homeland and wave it proudly." If I am making a living in another country and staying there, I am appreciative of their country for giving me that right. Would I remember where I come from and have a flag or some patriotic US reminder in my home or something like that? Sure. But, I think some people wave their homeland's flag out of disrespectful pride.
I see American military members display the flag while on foreign soil all the time.
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I believe that it has to do with the climate and attitudes surrounding Mexican immigrants in the US. I know Mexicans who live here that are very arrogant about the fact that they are here and that they are Mexican in the US. They do the whole "We're taking over thing." They are people that I know, so I'm not offended or anything, but knowing them gives me that insight. The Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans are usually VERY proud of the fact that they are Americans and aware of the fact that they are American, they fly their descendants flag because they are proud of their ancestry, it's not a "national" thing like Mexicans. Mexicans come off as having loyalty to the country of Mexico, not just the ancestry of Mexico. That is a problem because they don't have an allegiance to the USA.
This doesn't ring true at all.
So, the Mexicans have the wrong attitude and the Europeans have the right attitude.
What else could I have been thinking?
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I don't know what is "reacting negatively" in this case. I can't say that wondering why someone would want to fly another country's flag while living in different country is reacting negatively. Are you insinuating that anyone who wonders of those motives is xenophobic or something? If I walked out onto my street and saw another flag being flown on a house, I would have to wonder, "Geez, where is the USA flag? Do they not appreciate the fact that they are here in this country?" "Are they from that country? Or is this an act of novelty on their part?" People fly flags for different reasons, so people wonder. Also, doesn't it make you wonder how a person can show appreciation for another country, but not wave the flag of the country that they are priviledged to be living and possibly working in?
Then you better jump on the US military and their family members who fly US flags over their houses on the economy all over Europe.
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Huh? You're not going to wave the US flag because US soldiers are coming home from war in coffins covered with US flags? That's your reason for not flaying the flag?
And did you just say that "more people should try being an expatriot and live in different places?" You sound like one of those people that thinks everyone has to act the way you think they should act. That because you've lived in different places everyone else should. "More people should try it," lol, what the heck? So if people live in different countries like you, they will be more holier like you?
That's not what he's saying.
Everyone should live somewhere else, it helps them to grow as a person and out of xenophobia.
I've lived in 3 countries outside of the US. It's a wonderful way to learn about myself and where I fit in the world.
By that, I mean that I'm not the center of the world because I'm from the US.
The Flag Code does not have the power of law. It's a guideline. But its suggestions do show common sense and good etiquette.
Incorrect. The Flag Code is not a 'guideline' nor a mere suggestion, it is federal law and was passed by Congress in 1942. If you had bothered to click the provided hyperlink, you would've seen in big bold letters:
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The United States Flag: Federal Law Relating to Display and Associated Questions
Concerning the extent of it's enforcement however, is another matter.
Incorrect. The Flag Code is not a 'guideline' nor a mere suggestion, it is federal law and was passed by Congress in 1942.
OK, then. Formally, it's a law. With no penalties, no enforcement and, according to the SC, no enforcement even possible. Frankly, I consider that a guideline.
Incorrect. The Flag Code is not a 'guideline' nor a mere suggestion, it is federal law and was passed by Congress in 1942. If you had bothered to click the provided hyperlink, you would've seen in big bold letters: Concerning the extent of it's enforcement however, is another matter.
It has no enforcement and the courts have made it crystal clear it is advisory.
So your right it is a law...but wrong if you think there is a requirement that it be followed.
I see American military members display the flag while on foreign soil all the time.
This doesn't ring true at all.
So, the Mexicans have the wrong attitude and the Europeans have the right attitude.
What else could I have been thinking?
Then you better jump on the US military and their family members who fly US flags over their houses on the economy all over Europe.
That's not what he's saying.
Everyone should live somewhere else, it helps them to grow as a person and out of xenophobia.
I've lived in 3 countries outside of the US. It's a wonderful way to learn about myself and where I fit in the world.
By that, I mean that I'm not the center of the world because I'm from the US.
So you have to LIVE overseas to make sure you aren't xenophobic?
LOL I listen to you all because everyone here is entitled to their opinion,but I definitely do not agree or see how you can say some of those things.
By the way, when did I say "Europeans" had the right attitude? I am pretty sure I said, "Italian-Americans," "Irish-Americans," etc. We were talking about "Americans" who are proud of their Italian, Irish, etc. ancestry.
Am I the only one who gets sick of people moving here from other countrys and waving their home flags in our face and we aren't susposed to say anything about it, .
Its all part of living in a free society although if you were running the show i doubt it would be free for long.
So you have to LIVE overseas to make sure you aren't xenophobic?
LOL I listen to you all because everyone here is entitled to their opinion,but I definitely do not agree or see how you can say some of those things.
By the way, when did I say "Europeans" had the right attitude? I am pretty sure I said, "Italian-Americans," "Irish-Americans," etc. We were talking about "Americans" who are proud of their Italian, Irish, etc. ancestry.
Don't have to; no.
But it tends to cut down on it.
Many CD posters should try it.
Europeans are European heritage.
You said Mexicans are arrogant; and that European "heritage" are not, they're just proud.
Read your own words.
So, people with European heritage do it right and people with Mexican heritage do not.
Do I have it right now?
You're disagreeing about what I see US military members do: Exhibiting their flag on foreign soil?
Are you saying that they don't?
Spend much time overseas in a military community?
Or is it that you disagree with my comments so you're going to deny that it occurs?
Can you clarify for me?
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