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And who started that war (and could have prevented those casualties)? Right... Japan.
Leaving aside FDR's intentional provocations and accepting for the sake of argument that war guilt was solely Japan's, it remains the case Japan was looking for a negotiated end to the war before the atomic bombs were used--making those killings even more senseless than those which had preceded them.
And even at that--using them in an unpopulated or sparsely populated area--or, for instance, off the coast of Tokyo--would've made the point as well as burning two cities off the map.
There is no justifying the atomic bombings on any level whatsoever.
Leaving aside FDR's intentional provocations and accepting for the sake of argument that war guilt was solely Japan's, it remains the case Japan was looking for a negotiated end to the war before the atomic bombs were used--making those killings even more senseless than those which had preceded them.
And even at that--using them in an unpopulated or sparsely populated area--or, for instance, off the coast of Tokyo--would've made the point as well as burning two cities off the map.
There is no justifying the atomic bombings on any level whatsoever.
You say that Japan was preparing to surrender prior to the 6th. Dr Hideki Yukawa who was awarded the Nobel Price in physics in 1949 for his extensive work with the atom beginning in 1941 an atomic bomb project launched by Prime Minister Hideki Tojo in January 1943 (http://www.ww2pacific.com/attacks.html)
Live having to watch my back all the time over-seas? Unable to wear an American flag or U.S. branding to an Arabic market in the Middle East due to what we have "in the past protected our interests around the world"? Have to make excuses for those who are just as bad as the terrorists in their bent and hatred for those who are not like them to those whose country I'm working or passing through?
I live my way of life, in those things, specifically because of people like you and the fact of the way that we have "protected our interests around the world". Trust me, you're doing us no favors and are just as bad as those you're denouncing. Fear and Hate make powerful aphrodisiacs to those to whom that's all that is available. Fear and Hate is NOT what the United States stands for. Yet sadly, there are many more like you who would have it be so. And that's why there are groups like Al-Queda and others. Each and every action has an opposite and equal reaction. Mirror images of each other, hate for hate. Blood for blood. At least they're willing to die for their hate, and fear.
Funny how some people critisize U.S. policy around the world, but live a lavish lifestyle because of it. Yes, we can relax in our $2,000 recliner and type away on our $1,000 laptop and say how terrible our country is. Ain't America great! Try this in Iran and you will be put to death.
Leaving aside FDR's intentional provocations and accepting for the sake of argument that war guilt was solely Japan's, it remains the case Japan was looking for a negotiated end to the war before the atomic bombs were used--making those killings even more senseless than those which had preceded them.
And even at that--using them in an unpopulated or sparsely populated area--or, for instance, off the coast of Tokyo--would've made the point as well as burning two cities off the map.
There is no justifying the atomic bombings on any level whatsoever.
Yea, and there was no justifying Pearl Harbor or 911 either!
So, I guess Ike was declaring "holy war" on the Nazis?:
"Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force! You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world."
so you also dont mind if the nyc commision gives the go ahead to that catholic church that wants to rebuild too, right?
False statement.
The church is going to rebuild, and it's got nothing whatsoever to do with what the City of New York does or doesn't do. It just can't rebuild while construction operations include excavation for underground access on the lot on which it will stand. This is not a difficult concept to grasp, and I can't understand why people don't get it.
You say that Japan was preparing to surrender prior to the 6th....
I don't want to get into either a pissing match over this issue, nor do I wish to hijack or otherwise aid in diverting this thread but...
Japan ultimately surrendered under the same conditions that they offered well before the dropping of either of the atomic bombs, that being the case the dropping of either bomb was unnecessary to achieve the final surrender as accepted.
"We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non Muslims," Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf said in 2005.
Was that in the context that the UN sanctions against Saddam's regime resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of starving Iraqi children?
That was in one video I saw of this guy. He claiming that the US was responsible for the deaths of those children, even though Saddam was building billion dollar presidential mansions all over Iraq during the same time period.
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I don't want to get into either a pissing match over this issue, nor do I wish to hijack or otherwise aid in diverting this thread but...
Japan ultimately surrendered under the same conditions that they offered well before the dropping of either of the atomic bombs, that being the case the dropping of either bomb was unnecessary to achieve the final surrender as accepted.
While I've read they were seeking peace conditions advantageous to Japan I've never read of an offer of unconditional surrender prior to the A-bombings. Have a link?
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