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I disagree about the validity of Vattel's writings in this argument. What matters is how the U.S. has interpreted the meaning of natural-born citizen during the intervening two centuries, and I think it's very clear that our judicial branch has determined that "citizen at birth" and "natural-born citizen" are synonymous; therefore, our current President qualifies.
Cite cases.
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And, since our current Supreme Court has repeatedly thrown out birther suits, I think we can safely assume that they agree.
They've been thrown out on standing, not on merit. Apparently, the courts believe U.S. citizens have no standing to question the eligibility of the U.S. President.
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I have to wonder if there would have been this much belly-aching over eligibility had McCain been elected.
Did McCain have a non-citizen parent?
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As an aside, I have to thank all of you for helping to inspire my spouse and I to clear up the argument over whether he is a naturalized or natural-born citizen of our nation. He unequivocally qualifies as natural-born despite having entered the world overseas.
If his parents were both U.S. citizens at the time of his birth, yes.
Nonsense. It is a simple fact. No other presidential candidate or president has ever provided a birth certificate to prove their eligibility. Arthur never did so, because he had no birth certificate at all.
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And I've already given the example of another who would be ineligible by virtue of non-citizen parents. Bobby Jindal.
And you are wrong in that regard. Bobby Jindal is a natural born American citizen, and fully eligible for the Presidency.
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You posted a federal law. I'll remember that next time I have need to apply for a federal birth certificate.
Oh, wait... that sounds familiar... didn't Congress just deem as passed the latest budget so they can go back to their constituents and 'claim' they didn't vote for increased spending?
That's your opinion. That's not what Vattel wrote. He never wrote that children of non-citizens were not citizens at all. He wrote that they were not natural citizens.
Vattel never mentioned natural citizens.
Ever.
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Yes. Vattel influenced the Constitution, he did not write it.
Blackstone had more.
And when it comes to citizenship, Vattel had none.
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