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Gosh, if we could only get past the "standing" issue and get to the merits of the case.
You have to admire the long and strenuous effort of conservatives to establish the "standing" issue in the first place. It is, after all, entirely an invention of the right.
Obama's long form BC is beside the point. Obama was born a British citizen by virtue of his father. He's not a natural born American citizen. That is, unless he was a U.S. citizen at the time the U.S. Constitution was adopted (the only exception allowed by the Constitution), which he wasn't.
You do know, I hope, that even Mario Apuzzo (the lawyer in this case) thinks you have your head in rectal defilade here, right?
He has conceded just yesterday that you can be a dual citizen and a natural born US citizen at the same time.
No. The SCOTUS decision is quite clear; it even refers to those born within the jurisdiction without regarding parents' citizenship status as 'citizens' only, not 'natural born' citizens.
Your Supreme Court even decided that Wong Kim Ark, both of whose parents were not Americans but subjects of the Chinese emperor and whose life was similarly chaotic as Obama's, was a natural born American. And you think Obama, whose mother is American, is not? There was not even a Kenyan exclusion act
The way I see it there are only two ways of being a citizen. Either you are natural born or naturalized later on. Since the latter is not the case with Obama and probably nobody denies he is a citizen, that only leaves the possibility that he is a natural born American.
Why do you think the founding fathers put the grandfather clause in the Constitution?
Because the oldest natural born US citizen in 1787 was 11 years old, and they didn't want to wait another 24 years until 1811 before we could actually have a president.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
I'm sure he falls into one of these categories...
You have to be natural born to be president.
Why do you think the founding fathers put the grandfather clause in the constitution?
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