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Old 06-24-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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Maybe "Dummycrats" don't want to continue using our children and our tax dollars as cash cows. Oh, those precious charter schools you love -- veritable hotbeds of financial mismanagement and theft … oh, wait, wut?

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BRADENTON – 20 percent of Florida's charter schools close because of financial mismanagement or poor academic standards, according to a year-long study of charter schools in 28 Florida counties by the League of Women Voters of Florida.
LWV Releases Detailed Analysis of Florida Charter Schools - The Bradenton Times - Local News for Bradenton and Manatee County - Free News for Bradenton, FL and Manatee County

D.C. officials seek stronger oversight of charter schools after recent fraud allegations - The Washington Post

And these hedge fund folks are just shining beacons of goodness for investing in charter schools!

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Obscure laws can have a very big impact on social policy, including obscure changes in the United States federal tax code. The 2001 Consolidated Appropriations Act, passed by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton, included provisions from the Community Renewal Tax Relief Act of 2000. The law provided tax incentives for seven years to businesses that locate and hire residents in economically depressed urban and rural areas. The tax credits were reauthorized for 2008-2009, 2010-2011, and 2012-2013.

As a result of this change to the tax code, banks and equity funds that invest in charter schools in underserved areas can take advantage of a very generous tax credit. They are permitted to combine this tax credit with other tax breaks while they also collect interest on any money they lend out. According to one analyst, the credit allows them to double the money they invested in seven years.
Or maybe "Dummycrats" are opposed to allowing foreigners to skip lines and buy immigration visas (you cons ought to be all over that, but no …)

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Another interesting side note is that foreign investors who put a minimum of $500,000 in charter school companies are eligible to purchase immigration visas for themselves and family members under a federal program called EB-5.cows.
Why hedge funds love charter schools - The Washington Post

But what about all those studies that show kids do better in Holy Charter Schools? Hold on there -- there are plenty of crappy ones, too. And guess what? They're as much about the money as you say teachers unions are!

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Risky choices: Many charters prove poor options

By Vicki McClure and Mary Shanklin | Sentinel Staff Writers
Pat and Tammy Rasmussen had no idea they'd sent their son Daniel to one of the lowest-performing schools in Florida -- until he came home one day and said he was helping teach math class.

There had been hints. Richard Milburn Academy in New Port Richey initially had placed Daniel, a high-school junior, in classes he already had taken or did not need for graduation, the parents say. Homework consisted of crossword puzzles. Administrators offered to pay their son $50 for each friend he persuaded to join.

The couple wanted a public school with small class sizes and rigorous instruction. Instead they chose one for potential dropouts. Only 12 percent of students could read at grade level.

Daniel moved to a regular school, but not before the principal asked whether he could stay because of the "head count," Pat Rasmussen said. The count determined how much state money a school gets -- in Daniel's case, about $5,000.
Charter Schools - Missing the Grade - Part1: Orlando Sentinel Special Report - Orlando Sentinel

Nope, charter schools are definitely the answer, and those damn Dimmycrats are just standing in the way of a financial killing, er, fine education.

New report cites $100 million-plus in waste, fraud in charter school industry - The Washington Post

Oh, but it's all about the children, right? Your worship of charter schools has nothing to do with making a killing off the public dime!

Spare us all the righteous talk about education. You people only want to steal as much taxpayer money as you can lay your grubby hands on.

 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jmqueen View Post
Maybe "Dummycrats" don't want to continue using our children and our tax dollars as cash cows. Oh, those precious charter schools you love -- veritable hotbeds of financial mismanagement and theft … oh, wait, wut?



LWV Releases Detailed Analysis of Florida Charter Schools - The Bradenton Times - Local News for Bradenton and Manatee County - Free News for Bradenton, FL and Manatee County

D.C. officials seek stronger oversight of charter schools after recent fraud allegations - The Washington Post

And these hedge fund folks are just shining beacons of goodness for investing in charter schools!



Or maybe "Dummycrats" are opposed to allowing foreigners to skip lines and buy immigration visas (you cons ought to be all over that, but no …)



Why hedge funds love charter schools - The Washington Post

But what about all those studies that show kids do better in Holy Charter Schools? Hold on there -- there are plenty of crappy ones, too. And guess what? They're as much about the money as you say teachers unions are!



Charter Schools - Missing the Grade - Part1: Orlando Sentinel Special Report - Orlando Sentinel

Nope, charter schools are definitely the answer, and those damn Dimmycrats are just standing in the way of a financial killing, er, fine education.

New report cites $100 million-plus in waste, fraud in charter school industry - The Washington Post

Oh, but it's all about the children, right? Your worship of charter schools has nothing to do with making a killing off the public dime!

Spare us all the righteous talk about education. You people only want to steal as much taxpayer money as you can lay your grubby hands on.
And the left continues to keep children in some public schools that responsible people wouldn't leave their dog in for one day.
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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And the left continues to keep children in some public schools that responsible people wouldn't leave their dog in for one day.
I see you have no actual response to these facts. Again.

At least you're consistent!
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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I see you have no actual response to these facts. Again.

At least you're consistent!
If you have children, and you would honestly allow your child to set foot in some of these institutions, then yes, you and I don't understand "facts" in quite the same way.
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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If you have children, and you would honestly allow your child to set foot in some of these institutions, then yes, you and I don't understand "facts" in quite the same way.
Please cite which institution, with specific details.

And you're still ignoring the facts about charter schools with your sweet little irrelevant deflection.

Again. Still.
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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Let's look to Harvard, Obama's alma mater, for info...

Vouchers Help African American Students Go to College
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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Please cite which institution, with specific details.

And you're still ignoring the facts about charter schools with your sweet little irrelevant deflection.

Again. Still.

I can't speak for all charter schools. I just know about the one my kid goes to in the Sierra's near Yosemite. Great school. Great programs. Great test results. I really don't have to go to the trouble of citing specific schools that are hell holes. ABC, NBC, and CBS have done numerous reports on inner city parents who are desperate to take their children out.
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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Let's look to Harvard, Obama's alma mater, for info...

Vouchers Help African American Students Go to College
What about fraud, waste and abuse? Nice deflection.

Plus, Harvard is a useless leftist dump according to you RWNJs. What changed to make it suddenly the only authority on charters and vouchers? Hmmmmm????
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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I can't speak for all charter schools. I just know about the one my kid goes to in the Sierra's near Yosemite. Great school. Great programs. Great test results. I really don't have to go to the trouble of citing specific schools that are hell holes. ABC, NBC, and CBS have done numerous reports on inner city parents who are desperate to take their children out.
Of course you don't. Unless you want some credibility in this discussion, of course!

And since your personal experience is supposed to be some kind of proof, well, I'll see your charter school and raise you three kids who graduated from public schools and have done/are doing great in elite colleges! That proves that all public school are awesome, right?
 
Old 06-24-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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What about fraud, waste and abuse?
Can you cite such in the Harvard study cited?

Vouchers Help African American Students Go to College
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