Birther Lakin Wakes Up and Smells the Coffee. (Cheney, constitution, pay)

[Strel]

Originally Posted by meson

I ♥ birfers, they are a riot!

Free entertainment for the sane and educated.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by Strel

Free entertainment for the sane and educated.

Hey, just trying to serve the fiction fashionists.

Nothin' personal or nuthin'.

Obama may not be the president, but neither is McCain-Palin.

Not exactly win-win, but at the least, a compromise.

Of sorts!

Simply a compromised Constitution - but hey, that's nuthin' new.

Course, I hate seeing it compromised to it's evil opposite.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by ergohead

"Natural born citizens" are purely American by law of circumstances, i.e., born in the United States of two citizen parents.

That would be more believable were such a definition found anywhere in the English language prior to or contemporary with the Framing of Article 2 of the US Constitution.

Unfortunately, there existed only one definition in the language at the time, and it was that of English common law.

A natural born citizen is anyone born on US soil who is not the child of foreign diplomats or a foreign army in hostile occupation.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Hope the troops are taking note.

Oh!! So do I.

The jury is currently in deliberation. The prosecution asked for 2 years in prison, dismissal from the service (the commissioned equivalent of a dishonorable discharge) and full forfeiture of pay and benefits.

We will probably know in an hour or two.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

I most certainly do.

You still appear to be confused. Let's try again. I will ask you the same question I asked before. Maybe this time you will have the balls to answer:

Do these statements contradict each other?

1. A platypus is a mammal.

2. A platypus is a mammal that lays eggs.

Please, feel free to explain your "yes" or "no" answer.

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Citizen, not natural born citizen.

Do these statements contradict each other?

1. I am a United States citizen.

2. I am a natural born United States citizen.

Please feel free to explain why, if your answer is different from the question above, it would be different.

And again... take your time. Googling is still allowed.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Oh!! So do I.

The jury is currently in deliberation. The prosecution asked for 2 years in prison, dismissal from the service (the commissioned equivalent of a dishonorable discharge) and full forfeiture of pay and benefits.

We will probably know in an hour or two.

I wonder if the penalty will equivalate the desertion rate.

U.S. Army Desertion Rate Soaring | Clipmarks (http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/8CCA356A-37FF-4FFF-BAF3-AC54BE3A566F/ - broken link)

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by ergohead

Well, we wouldn't want a mutiny, now, would we?

I suspect that some here would love nothing more.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

You still appear to be confused. Let's try again. I will ask you the same question I asked before. Maybe this time you will have the balls to answer:

Do these statements contradict each other?

1. A platypus is a mammal.

2. A platypus is a mammal that lays eggs.

Please, feel free to explain your "yes" or "no" answer.



Do these statements contradict each other?

1. I am a United States citizen.

2. I am a natural born United States citizen.

Please feel free to explain why, if your answer is different from the question above, it would be different.

And again... take your time. Googling is still allowed.

So . . You're sayin' Obama is a duck?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by ergohead

So . . You're sayin' Obama is a duck?

There were no ducks harmed (or mentioned) during the making of that post.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

There were no ducks harmed (or mentioned) during the making of that post.

Not me, I ducked!

That only leaves you and your fiction.