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You have all the numbers, can't you figure it out? Here again. 9500 employees who call in sick 11.5 times a year, how many would call in on average, daily?
What calculation did you use to come up with an average of 315 workers calling in sick everyday, out of 7200 uniformed union members.
The article in NYPost was one from Oct 14 that stated, as many sources do, the avg number of sick days used by the Sanitation Workers is 11.5. I gave you the link from the NYC Sanitation web site that shows the number of employees, about 9500. Apparently some must be spoon fed, so here goes.
9500 people call in sick 11.5 time per year == 109250 calls per year.
Now here is the hard part, you got to figure out how many days there are in a year!! First attempt, one would say 365. So we will try that.
109250/365 == 299 , but people don't work 365 days per year, so let's say 52 weeks, 5 days per week, that comes up to 260. So, let's try that.
109250/260 == 420 , that would indicate more than 400 call in on a normal basis, so during this event, fewer called in. But, that's not realistic either. Lets assume the are some that work more than 5 days per week, and of course there are vacations and personal days, oh my this gets too confusing. So, lets guess somewhere between 365 and 260, say 347, probably too high, but for argument purposes, we'll use that nice round number.
109250/347 == 315. Ergo the magic number, probably too low, but that's OK
So basically...you made it up based on some criteria of yours. There is no official number.
I suspect the City has statistics on how many people casll in sick daily. I am sure we will eventually be able to locate that or it be reported. I suspect, but do not know, that the number of call ins during this storm will be pretty much in line with the average. So absent an "official" number, I applied a little logic and reasoning, along with a little bit of evaluative thought, took what data I could find, and came up with an estimate. Of course it is my estimate. But it is based on identifiable and known data, not conjecture.
So basically...you made it up based on some criteria of yours. There is no official number.
You seem to use (or quote), might be's, could be's and maybe's as absolutes when using them as your rational, but when others explain their rational in detail, you shrug it off, as not worthy of your royal opinion.
You seem to use (or quote), might be's, could be's and maybe's as absolutes when using them as your rational, but when others explain their rational in detail, you shrug it off, as not worthy of your royal opinion.
Between 660 and 720 Sanitation workers called in sick for the cleanup of last week's blizzard -- more than double the usual rate, The Post has learned.
About 11 to 12 percent of the Sanitation Department's 6,000-strong force didn't show up for work on Monday or Tuesday, city officials confirmed, as 20 inches of snow brought the Apple to a near-standstill.
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You seem to use (or quote), might be's, could be's and maybe's as absolutes when using them as your rational, but when others explain their rational in detail, you shrug it off, as not worthy of your royal opinion.
Well, the rational really doesn't jive with independent statistics.
How does that 11 to 12% of sanitation department workers who called in sick during the blizzard compare to the percentage of workers in private companies, the hospitals, mass transit, retail businesses, etc., etc. who called in sick during this storm? Without that figure to as a comparison, that 11 to 12% figure is quite meaningless. And what percentage of those sanitation department workers were office or janitorial staff and others who be behind the wheel of a truck anyway?
How does that 11 to 12% of sanitation department workers who called in sick during the blizzard compare to the percentage of workers in private companies, the hospitals, mass transit, retail businesses, etc., etc. who called in sick during this storm? Without that figure to as a comparison, that 11 to 12% figure is quite meaningless. And what percentage of those sanitation department workers were office or janitorial staff and others who be behind the wheel of a truck anyway?
Based on 2008 numbers, they have a 2200 garbage trucks. They can have up to 1300 plows, but thats on all vehicles, not just garbage trucks. A lot of the ones with plows are cut downs (small dump trucks), used to clear parking lots and use for getting loaded from front loaders - not for distance clearing.
Here is a break down of those qualified for snow removal (or at least those who took annual training, based on departments annual report): [still looking for more recent numbers]
Load and Dump Snow Removal: ________________________ 480 employees
Spreader/Plows – Supervisors __________________________ 90 employees
Spreader/Plows – Sanitation Workers ____________________ 200 employee
[please note i rounded numbers up to 0's ]
How does that 11 to 12% of sanitation department workers who called in sick during the blizzard compare to the percentage of workers in private companies, the hospitals, mass transit, retail businesses, etc., etc. who called in sick during this storm? Without that figure to as a comparison, that 11 to 12% figure is quite meaningless. And what percentage of those sanitation department workers were office or janitorial staff and others who be behind the wheel of a truck anyway?
Those in the private sector are not on call or responsible for seeing the streets get plowed.
This is a big part of the unions job....and apparently the evidence is mounting that they engaged in a job "action" because they were unhappy with the layoffs, unhappy with the coming demotions and budget cuts.
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Here is a break down of those qualified for snow removal (or at least those who took annual training):
Link please.
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